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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago

    Does scripture say that the ONLY TRUE GOD sent another who was called Jesus?

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    You are entitled to believe that it was purely coincidental that the gigantic altar of Zeus was in Pergamon and that God told Jesus who told the angel who told John that those who dwell in Pergamon  is where Satan’s throne is located. I think that Zeus was part of  the legends of old. false gods and mighty men who were the Nephilim. Satan is the f…[Read more]

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    You are entitled to believe that it was purely coincidental that the gigantic altar of Zeus was in Pergamon and that God told Jesus who told the angel who told John that those who dwell in Pergamon  is where Satan’s throne is located. I don’t hold that view especially considering that the legends of old and mighty men were the Nephilim meaning tha…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Knowing Our History in the forum Prophecy 10 years ago

    If you are referring to religious history, then it is still history and history is a teacher too. e.g., if a particular doctrine like the Trinity is created and enforced by a group that has killed and persecuted those who do not adhere to their doctrine, then history shows us the bad fruit and helps us judge the root. It is not the only teacher…[Read more]

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    It certainly is NOT saying that Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Knowing Our History in the forum Prophecy 10 years ago

    The bible is a historical book among other things. History is not bad, It teaches us if we have ears to hear. History has the word ‘story’ in it. We learn by observing the failures and successes of others. We know a good tree and a bad tree by its fruit. History attests to the fruit that has been produced over the centuries and millennia.

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    Not sure what you are saying in your last post. Is it in context with the discussion or just a general point that needs no reply?

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    Daniel 4:17
    “This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones; to the intent that the living may know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.”

    Daniel 5:21
    “And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made…[Read more]

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    Allegory or not, that area of the world was the capital for four empires and two significant ones, the Roman Empire (Byzantine) and the Ottoman Empire (Islamic). If it is an allegory, then it is coincidental. But God knows all things, so choosing to say that about that part of the world was likely intentional and for a purpose.

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    Allegory or not, that area of the world was the capital for four empires and two significant ones, the Roman Empire (Byzantine) and the Ottoman Empire (Islamic). If it is an allegory, then it is coincidental. But God knows all things, so choosing to say that about that part of the world was likely intentional and for a purpose.

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    Allegory or not, that area of the world was the capital for four empires and two significant ones, the Roman Empire (Byzantine) and the Ottoman Empire (Islamic). If it is an allegory, then it is coincidental. But God knows all things, so choosing to say that about that part of the world likely was done for a reason.

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    Good post Jael.

    There is no third member. There is God who can inhabit all creation by his spirit. This God has a son who is the firstborn of all creation.

    While we cannot compare God to a created thing, a close parallel to understand God in relation to his spirit is the sun and its rays. The sun exists in a certain location in the galaxy. We…[Read more]

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    Yes, some say they believe in God but they hold not to the truth. They do not hold the truth because they love not the truth. Anyone who doesn’t love truth cannot love God and cannot love Jesus who said he is the truth.

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    Ha ha. Good point terraricca.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago

    @Jael

    John 6:37-39
    All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never turn away. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of all those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago

    @Jael

    John 6:37-39
    All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never turn away. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of all those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago

    It makes me smile a bit when a newish member argues for the Trinity using lame arguments that have been well refuted here. Not sure that Jael supports the Trinity though. Perhaps he can tell us if he does, but from his posts that I have read it appears not. Anyway, Trinitarians really think they are going to blow us out of the water with these…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago

    It makes me smile a bit when a newish member argues for the Trinity using lame arguments that have been well refuted here. Not sure that Jael supports the Trinity though. Perhaps he can tell us if he does. Anyway, such members really think they are going to blow us out of the water with these arguments. My reply to them is usually a cut and paste…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 10 years ago

    Yes the ANZACs fought against the last of the Ottoman Empire. After that war, that empire was no more and the nation of Turkey was formed.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 10 years ago

    Islamic Violence against women
    Warning: Contains graphic violence.

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