Your arguments about unity fails to include those that belong to God and you need to do this because otherwise it exposes your false teaching. Those that try to make men break even the least of the commandments will at best be least in the kingdom. At worst, they may be shut out of the kingdom.

Your arguments about unity fails to include those that belong to God and you need to do this because otherwise it exposes your false teaching. Those that try to make men break even the least of the commandments will at best be least in the kingdom. At worst, the may be shut out of the kingdom.

Just meditate on the perfect, eternal unity of the Father and the Son with an open mind.

Just meditate on the perfect, unity of the Father, the Son, and the sons with an open mind. You will see that of the three in unity, the Father is God.

You, Jael, as a son of your earthly father, were subordinate to him while he was raising you. However, during that time and also now, you have both been equally human have you not?

Oh, so Jesus grows up and becomes part of God himself, another god equal to the Most High,or perhaps even better than God. What a joke all these false doctrines…[Read more]

As for the preexistence of Jesus as the Word, Wisdom, the angel of YHWH, or even as a literal firstborn and only begotten before creation, this is an entirely different topic IMO. That topic is here:

https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/preexistence-part-2/page/502/

Further, if Jesus is the Word that was with God etc, this does not make him God.…[Read more]

As for the preexistence of Jesus as the Word, Wisdom, the angel of YHWH, or even as a literal firstborn and only begotten before creation, this is an entirely different topic IMO. That topic is here:

Preexistence (Part 2)

Further, if Jesus is the Word that was with God etc, this does not make him God.…[Read more]

Whether Jesus is Wisdom from God, the Word of God, the first work of God or not, LU’s view is wrong regardless of this.

Scripture is clear that for us there is one God the Father. For her, there is one God the Father and the Son. For Trinitarians, there is one God the Father, Son, Spirit.

While it is paramount we believe that Jesus Christ is the…[Read more]

Whether Jesus is Wisdom from God, the Word of God, the first work of God or not, LU’s view is wrong regardless of this.

Scripture is clear that for us there is one God the Father. For her, there is one God the Father and the Son. For Trinitarians, there is one God the Father, Son, Spirit.

While it is paramount we believe that Jesus Christ is the…[Read more]

Yes. LU lost the plot years ago. But she is an interesting case and has much to teach us about how people went astray and developed tho Trinity Doctrine in the first place. She is teaching the wise indirectly if they observe her thinking patterns which lead to this drunkenness because the whole world has been led astray and is drunk.  Observing…[Read more]

@t8 you have made things so complicated. Just keep it simple, my friend.

What is more simple, the eternal God has a son, or God is the son and other members and they are a sort of substance beyond comprehension who love each other with them all being 100% God, but not 200 or 300% when you look at all of them as God?

No that is wrong Lightenup. That is not the language of scripture, but of philosophy.

Yes there is perfect love and unity. That has nothing to do with the Trinity or Binity. It has everything to do with God who is love. Those that are loved by him including the son are able to reflect that love.

In fact, the son of God reflects God’s glory in…[Read more]

No that is wrong Lightenup. That is not the language of scripture, but of philosophy.

Yes there is perfect love and unity. That has nothing to do with the Trinity or Binity. It has everything to do with God who is love. Those that are loved by him including the son are able to reflect that love.

In fact, the son of God reflects God’s glory in…[Read more]

No that is wrong Lightenup. That is not the language of scripture, but of philosophy.

Yes there is perfect love and unity. That has nothing to do with the Trinity or Binity. It has everything to do with God who is love. Those that are loved by him including the son are able to reflect that love.

In fact, the son of God reflects God’s glory in…[Read more]

No that is wrong Lightenup. That is not the language of scripture, but of philosophy.

Yes there is perfect love and unity. That has nothing to do with the Trinity or Binity. It has everything to do with God who is love. Those that are loved by him including the son are able to reflect that love.

In fact, the son of God reflects God’s glory in full.

No that is wrong Lightenup. That is not the language of scripture, but of philosophy.

Yes there is perfect love and unity. That has nothing to do with the Trinity or Binity. It has everything to do with God who is love. Those that are loved by him including the son are able to reflect that love.

1 Corinthians 12:26 says that we are one body. If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

But if we ignore the suffering of our brethren in other parts of the world and think the world is getting better, then we turn a blind eye to their suffering. We should at least pray for them, but…[Read more]

Personally I think Sharia Law outweighs homicide when it comes to violence and fear. I lived in Colombia where there is a very high homicide rate. At the time it was also the kidnap capital of the world, and of course there was the real risk of being in the middle of crossfire during their 50 or so years of civil war. But seriously, my life was…[Read more]

Personally I think Sharia Law outweighs homicide when it comes to violence and fear. I lived in Colombia where there is a very high homicide rate. At the time it was also the kidnap capital of the world, and of course there was the real risk of being in the middle of crossfire during their 50 or so years of civil war. But seriously, my life was…[Read more]