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Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Hang on Nick, I will ask him.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
God made all through his son.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Looks beautiful there Mike. Reminds me of the movie ‘Cars’.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
What does scripture actually claim?
Dig4Truth said: I don’t need to prove the first day without the sun was a regular day because Scripture says it was. I hope you can see that it is not my claim but what the scriptures claim.
Common sense should tell you that 24 hour day without the sun has problems. It is more likely that either the sun a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
God defeats Evil with the weak things of the world, and even an insignificant yacht race disproves the Flat Earth.
I don’t even need to bring out the big guns do I?I will try and read your posts above later tonight, but the obvious answer is you are not seeing the true picture with your math and you expect us to believe in a gnat and ignore the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Now take a look at this map. It is too problematic to believe. How can you keep a straight face and tell us this map is an accurate representation of the Earth?

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
A simple yacht race the FE cannot explain
Mike, you have to believe that this simple yacht race is fake. Yet as small as this is compared to the space & satellite industry, the Antarctic continent, and many other things, even this simple yacht race would be too hard to fake. Take a look at the video and you have to believe they are all actors and…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The Truman Show
Interesting you brought that show up. When asked why Truman doesn’t discover the truth behind his fake world, the directer of the Truman Show says, “We accept the version of our world with which we are presented.” Truer words have never been spoken. And just so you know, Hollywood hides truths in all kinds of movies. …
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The language of the creation days makes it clear that normal days are in view. So to interpret the days as anything other than normal days would be forcing a particular meaning.
If we allow Scripture to define Scripture we can understand more about the stars that have fallen or will fall. (Job 38:7, Dan 8:9-11, Jude 1:13, Rev 1:20, Rev 12:4)
So…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Why not let Scripture define Scripture and not try to conceal it?
What comes out of Yeshua’s mouth? The answer is the Word of God.
I agree. So now understand my point about how we read scripture. It says God made the heavens, earth, sun etc. Try not to force 24 hour periods in each day. It also says that stars will fall from heaven. Try not to f…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi Mike,
If this being had only one parent, and Mary was not the mother, and he was not a man then you are not speaking of Jesus.
Who then?You must be clueless. What other explanation is left? Maybe disingenuous? Thoughts.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
I doubt he disagrees with that Nick as you suggest. It is more likely you are bearing false witness or lacking in understanding in what he and others actually believe. I don’t see any good option that you can rely on regarding this. The latter being the best option in a bad list.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
What / Why question answered
T8: Does Yeshua have a double edged sword coming out of his mouth? If not, then is the Bible incorrect? Atheism or the Bible?
See that. This is basically the argument you make here.Mike: You have brought this same point up at least three times. And at least three times, I have responded with…
What? Why?
I have yet t…Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
It is obvious that things do not look exactly the same between any 2 human beings given things like different location, altitude, speed, etc. And things look different from the perspective of angels. And God’s view is different again. Just as an elephant has a small tail, that may not match the description of one of its leg or trunk. So what…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
So now the question is posed; Neil or Yeshua?
Do the stars fall or do they not?
Does Yeshua have a double edged sword coming out of his mouth? If not, then is the Bible incorrect? Atheism or the Bible?
See that. This is basically the argument you make here.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Jesus is a MAN, he is my brother but he is also my master, as he is the firstborn of the dead and our Father appointed him king over all of creation.
And all things were created through him. Thus, he is between God and creation. He is the agent of God’s creation.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick it says He was before John.
Was He anointed at this time when He was at the age of 12. Yes or no
Give me a straight answer yes or no Nick God bless.Nick cannot give straight answers like that. Jesus said this happens because of the evil one. We know the evil one is a deceiver and are aware of his vices. He hides the truth and avoids yes…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The galactic year, also known as a cosmic year, is the duration of time required for the Sun to orbit once around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_year
Did you guys know this?I was aware that the sun rotated around the galaxy. Wasn’t clued up on how long it took though. Because of this, the North Star…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Full moon and sun in the same moment
When I get your response to the full moon in daylight video I debunked, we can move on to another point.
Lost track of this. So many posts here, would take ages to find it.
I will start from scratch with a little story. I went to Auckland in NZ when 1999 clocked over to 2000 AD. I think we were the first to…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Could we all agree that “you shall not murder”?
Could we all agree that our children deserves the same or better protection than our politicians?
Why then do we send them to places where protection is prohibited?
And why then is the force of the Federal Government brought against the people to exert money to pay for the murder of millions of bab…- Load More

