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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
It ain’t over till you go over the curve
It’s over guys!
What is that? Scotland yes judging by the map. And you can see that some of the land is hidden. So this with refraction could produce this result, and judging by WTF reaction, I would take a guess that you do not see this everyday. So an anomaly explained by r…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Pay close attention to this video.
What do you think? Where is the curvature?I got this with an earth curve calculator:
- Results ignoring refraction
- Horizon = 3 Miles (15838 Feet)
- Bulge = 7.04 Feet (84.52 Inches)
- Drop = 28.17 Feet (338.09 Inches)
- Hidden= 8.17 Feet (98.05 Inches)
- Horizon Dip = 0.043 Degre…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
If it quacks like a duck
T8, look at your pictures, the glass, the straw, the duck and the truck. Do they look natural or are they obviously distorted?
They look natural with some distortion. Not too dissimilar to looking at a boat on or slightly over the horizon to be honest. The duck is half cut off and the pencil or pen is a little fatter. If…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
So the eclipse doesn’t prove either model. And this eclipse doesn’t disprove either model. So whatever we say about this eclipse we need to apply the judgement to both models. So this one video negates the existence of the globe earth and flat earth. Got it now. Maybe there is no earth, meaning quantum physics is closer to the truth.
How about we…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Mike, this perplexed me somewhat.
How does the topsy turvy eclipse work on a flat earth. Globe Earthers say eclipses prove the earth is not flat, period.
While you argue that some eclipses disprove the globe, then how do they prove the flat earth. If they don’t prove a flat earth at all, then it would seem strange to use this as one of the main…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi Mike.
You indirectly claim to have a better understanding of eclipses than me, so I have a question that I would like answered.
If you are in a location that experiences a Blood Moon, then how does it appear to a person that experiences a partial eclipse who is to the north and likewise to another person who is south of the full blood…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Partial eclipses
Mike, I don’t know much about eclipses, but my point which may be naive was to say that at a certain location on a certain hour of a certain day, you can view a blood red moon. I saw one a few years back. So my idea was a simple one. If you moved north of the eclipse so that you viewed a partial eclipse, then how would that look?…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Nothing to see here folks
Flights like that Mike are two flights designed to fill each plane up with passengers. Not enough demand for direct flights obviously. Done flights like this many times. Lots of people disembark at the first stop and heaps of new people embark.Further, try running some of these flights on a globe and they ain’t as…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
T8: “Why do you do it then with regard to sunset and sunrise. In both models the sun doesn’t literally rise and set. Both models explain it as perspective from the viewer. A little common sense goes a long way.”
And this is a point in your favor, how?
Because it refutes your point that our view of the sun circuit etc is wrong because we argue…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
You are correct that we take exception to you and others that do not take the creation event literally when the language is meant to be that way.
Why do you do it then with regard to sunset and sunrise. In both models the sun doesn’t literally rise and set. Both models explain it as perspective from the viewer. A little common sense goes a long way.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
If that didn’t come out right let me state it another way; If the distances are confirmed on a plane earth map then would they be correct on a globe map? I’m not sure but I kind of doubt it.
Try to pay attention to what I am actually saying.
- Flat Earthers have been debunking flight paths for some time.
- A Flat Earther proves the flight pat…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago

T8, look at your pictures, the glass, the straw, the duck and the truck. Do they look natural or are they obviously distorted?
Now look at the skyline of Chicargo, does it look distorted? No it doesn’t because it is an actual visual representation of the buildings! We know this because Rob Skiba chartered a boat and filmed the entire trip a…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Take note, this applies to you
Here is another comment in that video and I agree with it wholeheartedly.I had a lot of respect for your body of work as a whole until this flat earth stuff. Give it up rob. It’s not correct, I’m sorry it’s not. And further more it is destroying any validity any of your other work may have had.
This is the danger I…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The problem with accusing Globe Earthers of using heliocentric perspective to explain the sunrise and sunset
Mike and Dig have accused us as being wrong because we do not take a literal stance on the creation event. Rather we say the days were not necessarily 24 hours and the sun appeared in the firmament but could have been part of the heavens…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Comments made about the video
Rob, you just proved the earth is a globe. Your efforts can be put to a better use. You’ve been sent on a wild-goose chase and it’s high time to decide whether you’re being persistent or stubborn.Soooo, will you commit to it now? Is the earth flat or not.
ok, am i missing something here? if the grids towards the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The Flat Earther who proved the Globe Earth Part II
I think you are still missing the point. He was not saying that is the flight path that should be taken on a FE map but that if that path was taken it has the same distance as on the globe map. He was understanding the FE map in a more correct way. This would also answer some of your questions…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Psalm 95:3-5 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 3 months ago
Shallow. Is scripture shallow? It is not me saying it, it is scripture saying it. Don’t shoot the messenger.
After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, asking, “Where is the One who has been born King of the Jews? We saw His star in the east and have come to worship H…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
And so you can see yet another example of how one heliocentric argument kills another. In the selenelion eclipses, when we can see both the sun and moon above the earth at the same time, the argument is that they are both really hidden behind the curved horizon, but we are seeing their light refracted back up over the horizon, right?
Pretty sure…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Downward so it hits the eye of the viewer rather than upward into space and away from the viewer? Look the reality is we are not experts and most sane people are not going to trade away the reality of expeditions and direct flights over Antarctica, boats sailing the Southern Ocean, the Space Program, Satellite industry, photos of Earth, and videos…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago

My simple and quick explanation for this is as follows:
During a Blood Moon, if you were standing in the right place, you would see the Earth’s shadow cast fully on the moon right giving that reddish glow. And if you were close to that location but perhaps north or south of the exact location, then you would see a partial shadow right and by…[Read more]
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