Dig. There you go posting more videos or photos of globe earth proofs. You can clearly see the bottom is being cut off and we know refraction changes the calculation somewhat as the calculations are based on zero moisture in the atmosphere.

Again, I see lots of water in the image/video, so that would suggest slightly more than zero moisture I…[Read more]

Do you listen to “The Flat Earth Podcast”?  If not, you should.  The guys not only bring up excellent common sense points, but they are hilarious.  Anyway, they interviewed the son of an astronaut on the most recent one.  He was a great guy, and it was a kind and friendly discussion.  But when Jeran brought up the NASA image of the dark side of…

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T8: “and often we are talking about rare conditions right?”

Mike: No, not really. As long as seeing conditions are ok, meaning that atmospheric conditions allow the distant object to be seen at all, then it will be visable every time. What is very telling is that a part of the bottom may be cut off by refraction at times and not at other tim…

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Can you tell that it is not the original tv screen? Does it look the same or different? If they were side by side could you tell them apart?

Yes, you can tell. But to be honest, much better quality than my Mount Ruapehu photo compared to a photo taken close up.

Doesn’t exactly look like the red planet NASA shows us, huh?  Looks to me like just another star.

Nice video. Well of course it doesn’t look like that planet that NASA shows us because NASA send craft close to the subject and spend millions doing so, whereas you have to contend with atmospheric moisture, distance, and heaps of zoom on a th…[Read more]

That was a lengthy post but you did not answer my simple question; “..do you see 8 to 12 feet of curvature in that video?”.

The question doesn’t really make sense. 8-21 feet of a curve in front of me? Like a 8-12 ft mound?

Those models are that, models. Modelled from our perspective. Nothing wrong with that. But knowledge increased, but not all were able to understand this increased knowledge of a universe far greater than anyone imagined. Praise God. He always blows us away because he is infinite and the universe he created shows his infinite nature so that we…[Read more]

Beautiful isn’t it.

Praise God for his mighty works.

https://youtu.be/RtU_mdL2vBM

It will never bring an entire city, mountain, sun or moon back up over the horizon though.

Can you not see how you have become like the Trinitarians you use to debate> Sad but true it seems.

Start with the premise and all evidence that proves the contrary is just a misinterpretation, mistranslation, fake, false, etc.

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Birds flying in the firmanent

I further hope that if you don’t, you’ll apologize and openly admit your mistake. I say that because after Kathi thought she found a verse that says birds fly IN the firmament, five of you taunted me with “Ha Ha… now what, sucker?” posts. But when I showed that Kathi was mistaken, not a single one of you came back…

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Recap of discussed problems from above post
And remember, the morning and evening had no sun in your view for half or more of the week.

And what you would have as ‘west’ in sunset actually means ‘unto the going down’ which goes against the pattern of sunrise only meaning east in that verse.

Can you sort of see why we are not buying into your…[Read more]

Sunrise and day meanings

You must have missed the point I was making.  I wasn’t saying that English translations don’t use “sunrise” and “sunset”.  I was saying I couldn’t find a case where the actual Hebrew or Greek words explicitly indicated a setting or rising of the sun.  I hope you are able to find one, now that you’ve talked this trash…

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8 feet of refraction

t8, do you see 8 to 12 feet of curvature in that video? Do you seriously think that there is 8 to 12 feet of refraction? Be honest.

Of course it is possible that rer. We have a TV in our lounge that can be seen from the dining room table which is completely behind the TV and to the left. At night, a window reflects an image…[Read more]

The variable of refraction

Yes, nobody denies that refraction is a real thing, and that it is caused by moisture in the air. Keep that in mind the next time you think we should be able to see across the entire flat earth, because that moisture not only distorts light, but prohibits you from seeing unlimited distances. Consider the diffused…

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It disproves the heliocentric model that says the earth is what causes the shadows on the moon by coming between the sun and the moon.

Or you do not understand the science. Pretty sure if what you said was true, this would have been discovered ages ago.

Yes. My explanation is that the moon is its own light. It doesn’t rely on the sun to i…

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Gotta run an errand Mike.

But quickly, when what we say is the Earth’s shadow cast on the moon, what is that curved shadow on the moon in the Flat Earth model?

Double standard & cherry picking shows weakness in argument

Mike: Does scripture actually say anywhere that the sun “sets” or “rises”? I haven’t done an exhaustive investigation, but I just checked the Hebrew and Greek on about 20 verses that are translated in English as “sunrise” or “sunset”, and the Hebrew and Greek words mean things like “pass…

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False signs, wonders, and real refraction

An alien city spacecraft or is it refraction or a mirage?

I think the latter given that choice. If we deny atmospheric refraction, then it must be aliens, perhaps a dimensional rift in the space time continuum, or a hologram?

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Yes, nobody denies that refraction is a real thing, and that it is caused by moisture in the air. Keep that in mind the next time you think we should be able to see across the entire flat earth, because that moisture not only distorts light, but prohibits you from seeing unlimited distances. Consider the diffused Plexiglas on your shower door.…

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