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Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 2 months ago
Great Mike. This will keep points in check.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike.
Post me the single biggest evidence for a Flat Earth besides your rendering of the scripture and I will focus on that.
While I am doing the hard yards on that, I would appreciate some evidence from you as to why you think Madagascar exists.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago

TBH Mike, your comments about these images proves nothing about a globe or flat earth. It just proves that it is hard to take an image of the whole earth as these are composites. Satellites are not usually far out enough and most rockets which are few that head to other planets were designed and paid for research on those planets, not the Earth.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike, you know these 2d graphs / models you put up. You realise they are not entirely accurate. For a start distances and sizes are all wrong. They are shown this way to demonstrate the point. Otherwise if you scaled everything, it would be too hard to see them. Further, 2D misses out a whole other dimension. I remember watching a video that shows…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike, you have me experimenting with my camera a lot more now. This was taken in the weekend. The air is very clear this time of the year. I will probably go out to the main southern coastline when I get the chance and see if I can do a boat going over the horizon. This vantage point has the South Island in the way. That is a distance of about 80…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago

Um no. I don’t think anyone thinks the bushes are being hidden by the curvature of the Earth.
I find this a bit disingenuous. It’s like that small boat that appears when you zoom in. The boat is on the near side of the horizon and disappears because it is too small. But going over the curve can be demonstrated with large boats like ocean…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Okay, I’m tired of playing this philosophical pondering game with you. You bail on the evidence we provide, ignore when we refute your “evidence”, refuse to bring up the “best proof” in the dozens of videos you’ve posted so we can actually discuss it, and overall just ridiculing and putting down the two of us here that are trying to preach that…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Thanks Mike. Yes, I see that heat, cold, refraction can make things disappear at the bottom of an image, however, I don’t see that as being any kind of golden bullet for a flat earth or evidence for debunking a globe earth.
Today on my way to work, a whale was swimming in the harbour, so I got my video camera out of my car and filmed this. It…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
On a more serious note, I saw this on a Flat Earth Bible site.
This is the fruit. Placing the Bible as error because it has been disproven by reason of the Earth not being flat.
Pity some Christians insist that the Bible teaches the Flat Earth. It is a stumbling block now and will affect the preaching of the good news because of its perception…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago



Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Actually, both of you are saying that Jesus is a mere man and not the Christ.
Even now, Jesus means the mere man only according to you both.
Christ is the Spirit is what you both teach I think.
Until the two merged, Jesus was not the Christ is what you guys are saying.
That is what you teach,
Let’s recap as to what you guys teach:
Jesus is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Wait up. This popped up on my Facebook wall. Taken in the Cook Strait NZ looking toward Antarctica, it seems to show a crack in the edge of the dome. Hmmm. Might sail out there today and take a closer look.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
The thing is Mike, no one here is an expert on astronomy and eclipses and your topsy turvy eclipse doesn’t even prove the Earth is flat and you repeat this so called evidence as if it is your best example.
While we have ample evidence the earth is globe shaped in the form of videos, photos, math calculations and predictions etc, with a mention of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Before Abraham I AM in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 2 months ago
We need the Spirit to understand scripture. The Spirit doesn’t disguise truth by saying the opposite, the Spirit speaks the truth. Here is the truth that many here reject.
to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
… in these last days he has…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Nick. You resisted Gene for years but came around to his view. So on the outset, it is a good bet it could happen again right?
Of course I do not hold Gene’s view myself. But it is possible you could change your mind. Never say never. Happened before.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 8 years, 2 months ago
Silly question Nick. Ignorance is not bliss, it is blindness. Sometimes people become so right in their own eyes that they become blind.
The scriptures can renew the mind. But many just reject them too.
Jesus was born the Christ. He is the Lord and the son of the living God.
Nothing is going to change that. Not even a smooth talking…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 2 months ago
Correct Ed J. Nick says things like that to change the subject or to get out of an awkward situation he got himself in.
Jesus was born the Christ. The Spirit descended upon him at the baptism of John. He started his ordained ministry after that.
He was born the son of God and the Lord.
The Antichrist Spirit denies Jesus is the Christ. This is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Before Abraham I AM in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 2 months ago
Jesus the man is not the Christ to you.
You deny Jesus is the Christ.
Very dangerous ground. Especially the older we are.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Before Abraham I AM in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 2 months ago
Are you Jesus? I am.
Are you Gene, I am.
Are you Truthcomber? I am.
That is what it is.
Like saying it was me. When you say Before Abraham I am, you are saying you you existed before Abraham.
Jesus used the phrase “ego eimi” at least twenty times like: “I am the bread of life”.
‘I am’ is talking about yourself. So Jesus was himself before A…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 8 years, 2 months ago
This is not the place for a political speech.
I prefer scripture than a mere man’s tiny opinion. Please do not be offended. I have no choice if I am to serve God.
Heaven Net is about testing doctrines to see if they are true. We discuss scriptures a lot. Here are some scriptures for your consideration. Of course you may deem these as not good…[Read more]
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