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Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 2 months ago
Yes or no.
This is not a rocky sphere with crater formed by smaller rocks flying through space. Instead, it is an actual light like a star or like our sun?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike: In the last 475 years, how has mankind been able to determine (“ascertain or establish exactly” – as opposed to “assume” or “mathematically describe”) that the earth is a spinning ball orbiting the sun and hurtling through space at millions of miles an hour?
Okay, I’m just going to rattle off what I know, so my explanation might b…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 2 months ago
Mike: Do you know the difference between “assume” and “determine”? YES or NO?
Honestly, no. I would have to google that. Off the cuff, I think ‘assume’ is a logical guess and ‘determine’ is trying to find out something.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Our Messiah strictly from ancient times / eternity / everlasting
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”“But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Too little to be among the clans of Judah…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Reminded me a bit of the Mt Ruapehu photo supposedly proving the Flat Earth.
Enjoy!
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Yes, I know what it means. But it is written that the messiah was born in Bethlehem. He was born that day as the messiah, the Lord, and the son of God. That is what the text says. Nick, you let your mind get in the way. Let scripture be true, then you will believe the truth. Changing it to fit you dogma is wrong.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 8 years, 2 months ago
This one hits the nail on the head
Proclaimer started the topic Joseph in Egypt in the forum Archaeology & Biblical History 8 years, 2 months ago
Exciting evidence which points to the validity of the Biblical story of Joseph.
Proclaimer wrote a new post 8 years, 2 months ago
Exciting evidence which points to the validity of the Biblical story of Joseph.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Well you guys, that was a spectacular display of obfuscation. When asked a simple sincere question about the pillars of the earth no one answered it. Would y’all care to try again or is it too damaging for your side?
A good friend can be a pillar of strength. So they must be made if concrete then right?
Here are some pillars. They come in all si…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
So then considerably less than in the images I just showed, right? And considerably less than the ones on my video below, right?
Considerably less than that and now even lesser. Of course longer flights are considerably greater in number now and so not hard to accept many more high altitude planes are flying, especially in your country. Further,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 2 months ago
NO, it is impossible to know either the shape or the size of the earth using two shadows.
And the point of the question was to establish that the first claim almost every globe earther makes (“intelligent people have known the earth is round for over 2000 years”) is founded on a fallacy; and those people are only parroting crap they learned fro…Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 2 months ago
You know Mike, I remember years ago hearing a sermon about people who fall for cults and the like. The speaker pointed out that the chances were, the person at first had a strange feeling about what they were hearing, but became convinced over time. I believe that feeling is the Spirit of Truth and over time, that spirit is being ignored or…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 2 months ago
Great. Thank you for answering. And now you can see that the average person also relies on the weight of evidence for the round earth. The sheer weight of evidence that is not experienced by either yourself or me is that Madagascar exists on a globe earth despite either of us ever being to Madagascar or space. If not, then we are talking about a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
As to your question Dig, I don’t have any issues currently with scripture. I guess you must have a few like Jesus coming back with a two edged sword coming from his mouth and frog demons coming out of a real dragon.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
What about the fact that most of the FE researchers are Bible believing Christians? If one Christian astronaut should not be discounted then what about hundreds of FE Christians?
Most people who believe in the Trinity, an eternal hell, and believe their church is the only true one, also call themselves Christian.
Unfortunately many who profess…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
So you believe the amature scientists doing their own experiments have all been using “trickery”?
Regarding Flat Earthers, either trickery, intentional or nonintential deception, or a lack of scientific understanding of the true observation.
Globe Earth amateurs the same, except the they don’t need to resort to intentional deception and they usu…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago
Let me get this straight Mike, I need to ignore all ocean liners going over the horizon and accept smaller boats on the near side of the horizon and draw my conclusion on that.
But I even embedded a video of a small boat and ocean tanker in the same video at the same moment with predictable results.
Then there is refraction to consider because…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 2 months ago

When I was a kid along time ago, I remember contrails. You would see one, sometimes two at the same time. They came from planes very high in the atmosphere. Now you hardly see them at all here. Not sure why this is the case. I suspect that air routes changed and high altitude flights take a different route now. Just ice crystals anyway.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 2 months ago
Can I have an honest answer to my question. I will make it easier for you though. It doesn’t have to be the best reason for believing in the existence of Madagascar, but a strong reason only. This should help speed up your response.
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