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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 1 month ago
The Solid Dome Belief
Mike is a concrete pillar? lol. Of course you know the Bible is full of metaphoric language.But that fact aside, if the Bible says something and people in antiquity thinks it means another thing, that doesn’t make the people in antiquity right or the Bible wrong. If people believe that the Beast is the Catholic Church,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 1 month ago
Here’s a demonstration of how observations in the real world do not match what you would get on a Flat Earth but work perfectly fine in a Globe Earth.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 1 month ago
The way the Solar System works, it can clearly be demonstrated to fit the math and historical data. The Flat Earth model doesn’t have a chance of doing that.
Explain to me how you can demonstrate how the FE model creates this eclipse effect coz I am not seeing it.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 1 month ago
Hi T8,
Yes the Saviour was born.
Why are you surprised?
Even Herod understood such things.Trying to hide the fact that you do not believe he was born the messiah.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 1 month ago
Those words don’t exist.
I just quote scripture and that gets a reaction.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 1 month ago
It is a popular teaching that death means separation.
- Physical death is the separation of body and soul;
- Second death is the separation of soul and God or Spirit;
- Dead to sin is the separation of the Believer with sin;
- Dead to Law is the separation of Believer and the law;
It seems that to be away from the body is to be present with the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic There Were Signs in the heavens when Jesus was born in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 8 years, 1 month ago
Anyway, just wondering what your thoughts are September 23, 2017 sign. Many thought it would be the day of the rapture. Obviously not the case… but it still happened nonetheless. What do you think?
Hello, I hope all us well with you. 🙂
Personally, I think these are signs. But attaching it to the rapture was always a personal opinion that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 1 month ago
Dig said:
Maybe you would like to answer this question since you claim to understand metaphors. Are the pillars of the earth just a metaphor or do the scriptures present them as a factual thing? Apparently T8 didn’t have an answer or just thought we would all forget the question was asked. Maybe you will be different and have an a…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 1 month ago
Stellarium
Here is a software package that predicts all the eclipses. Try it out Mike.Then ask yourself how they know the eclipses in advance if it assumes the Earth is a sphere and it goes around the sun.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 1 month ago
Mike said:

T8 says:

Scientists believe the moon was not always tidally locked to the Earth, thus space debris would have hit all over the moon in its past. And there is no reason to believe that the moon has always been tidally locked. Things change all the time in the universe like our climate. One support of this, is the fact that the far…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 1 month ago
Maybe the Earth is at the centre when all things are considered, God knows. But the Earth definitely goes around the sun. That is one of your tenets I disagree with. The other one is that the Earth is a flat disc of some kind. No, it is a globe as testified by many different witnesses and calculations.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 1 month ago
The Solar System model fixes observational anomalies near Earth
Mike, whether you put the sun around the Earth or the Earth around the sun, it won’t make much difference to observations in the universe. But observations in our own system, it will make a huge difference. The Solar System sees wandering stars take on a regular elliptical orbit…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 8 years, 1 month ago
Mike. Please explain how the Flat Earth model produces this effect?
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 1 month ago
lol. Nick, are you really trying to convince people that “Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord”, spirtually speaking really means, “NOT THIS DAY in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is NOT the Messiah, the Lord”.
I mean come on. No one is going to believe the spiritual meaning i…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
I believe that this day in the town of David a Savior was born. That day he was the Messiah, the Lord.
You believe it not. Thus, you do not believe that scripture which is a declaration from a heavenly messenger.
Reality is not going to change Nick because you want so much for it not to be true.
Reality vs Nick? reality wins.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 1 month ago
Jodi said:
Good Morning t8,
We are not changing scripture, the child that was born was our savior and he is our master. But we were not saved by his birth, he was not anyone’s master when he was a baby.
“She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”
He was called a savior because he would beProclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 1 month ago
Paul says in 2 Cor. 5:8:
‘to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord’It’s simple: If you belong to God and you aren’t in your body, then you are with Jesus Christ.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 2 months ago
You need to start with the verse being correct and go from there. What you are doing is saying it is wrong and giving human reasons as to why.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 2 months ago
Gene. Read the scripture carefully. It is a message from a heavenly messenger. I believe it and you have rejected it.
Your human reasoning gets in the way.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 2 months ago
Jodi said:
Hi t8,
As Gene I believe already pointed out, upon his birth were the people saved from their sins? His birth wiped away our sins? NO! At the river Jesus was BORN of God’s Spirit and then he was sent out to speak the words of God and perform God’s will. He went to the cross being perfected as a human being and then he died, by that deat…- Load More

