Proclaimer, Jesus was the messenger, that God sent to show John his servant who recorded it and took it to the Churches.   There was no angelic being involved ,

The word Angel,  means “messenger” there,   and Jesus is and was God’s  “messenger”,  to mankind.

That is possible, but you have to believe the following verse is talking about Jesus.

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Technically speaking, pure garbage is better than carnal wisdom.

Most of what Carmel writes is not part garbage it is  “pure garbage.” he wants us to believe he is somehow more qualified to explain scriptures then we are

I think you explained yourself here Gene. Lol.

This could be the court case of the decade.
And Soros is involved.

Proclaimer, the only time they seen Jesus was when he was walking around “above the Ground like them,   so they never saw him decend from heaven in the first place, so why would Jesus ask a question  like “what”   “if” , you “see” me”  asend where he was before , wouldn’t they first have to have seen  him decend, inorder to see him asend to where…

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Free will means you have a will and it is free to choose among the influences or things that have no influence.

Pick a number between 1200 and 2000.

1456.

I chose that number.

If that question was asked last week, I doubt I would have chosen that number.’

Now for things that influence me. I use to believe in Evolution and was a staunch…[Read more]

Proclaimer….Arguments never change minds, the truth of God

That is why we give you scripture.

Easily debunking some of the teachings of Jodi and Gene
What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

And there came unto me ONE of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me (John), saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.

And I am John, who hea…[Read more]

It would be a brave person to bet against Donald Trump’
It would be a brave person who was prepared to bet, even now, against Donald Trump says Sky News host Alan Jones.

Mr Jones said he suspects the Trump team is in the process of gathering “irrefutable evidence of criminal collusion” in the fallout of the US election.

He said under an Exe…[Read more]

His robot version number didn’t have the free will feature. That came with later models.

This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw.

The way this is worded it mentions 4 persons. God > Jesus > Angel > John. There is a sentence here that says the angel passed it to John. So the…[Read more]

When someone changes your mind it shows free will not the lack of it. If they make a convincing argument or a better argument then you choose to let that change your mind or you double down on your lesser argument if your pride had been hurt.

This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw. This is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

It is possible that the servant is Jesus Christ but the wording is strange if that…[Read more]

Gene

You

Proclaimer you or they have not produced a single spicific scripture that says Jesus was alive before he was ever born on this earth..

Silly statement. He was given that name when he came in the flesh.

She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.”

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Proclaimer,

it is you that is hard of hearing,

I asked you WHO IS JESUS RIGHT NOW?

I clearly gave you the answer. Perhaps you are blind?

Have another look.

Twitter, Facebook were a big part of takedown efforts against Trump in 2020 election

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/twitter-facebook-takedown-trump-election-2020-dan-gainor

John 6:62
What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

Jodi 6:62
What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he HADN’T BEEN before?

Proclaimer,

it is you that is hard of hearing,

I asked you WHO IS JESUS RIGHT NOW?

He is the Messiah, the Lord, the Son of the living God, and the Word of God.

You believe his name is Jesus and therefore he is Jesus.

His name if the Word of God too.

Therefore he is _______?

Once again. Using scriptures to disprove others.

Everyone here acknowledges that there are things we cannot do. We cannot choose to do anything. I can’t choose to fly to China at this moment. I can’t move the moon even one inch. And I can’t travel back in time.

But I have free will which means of the things that God has given me responsibility…[Read more]

On a side note, if your mind is in captivity then freely choose to read the scriptures which can renew your mind. The truth can set you free Gene. But you must love the truth.