Proclaimer  my, my, how you drift around, and sell God and his saving power Short. If we lived how you believe no one would ever be saved,  or haven’t  you ever read what Paul quoted?

Rom 3:10…..as it is written, there is “none” rightious “no not one”:  There is “none” that understands,  there is ‘none” that seeks after God. read the rest on yo…

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I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you (John) these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

That settles it alone. Thanks Berean. These guys have been thoroughly debunked on yet another point. If they continue to fight this then that just shows an even higher level of…[Read more]

don’t understand that it is God that can and does,  cause our will’s to function a certanily way

Pity the guy then that lives for Christ his whole life and denied God on his deathbed. God willed it that way. But what if that guy was you. Then you face judgement. Pretty sure you might mention how unfair it was that you had no choice in the matt…[Read more]

Your idea about this Jodi doesn’t match reality does it. Think about it.

You seem to treat our sinful nature as if it holds the same level of convincing power that God’s Spirit holds. You sure make YOUR God Proclaimer out to be pathetic and weak, I’ll give you that! Your God resembles NOTHING like that of mine, and the way you view the Holy Spirit seems rather blasphemous in my opinion.

Wrong again. Paul teaches us s…[Read more]

Proclaimer, you said “Jesus never refused worship”,  thats not true, what did he tell the man who called him Good, “why do you call me good?,  “there is none Good, “but one”, and that is God.”

Sorry Gene, I can’t see the part in that verse that says he refused worship as the Son Of God. You might need to point it out to me.

LOL.

Trump team outlines path to victory

Proclaimer……yes that messenger mentioned there is Jesus,

Off the bat, the chances are it s not Jesus based on the fact that you seem to take an opposing view to scripture. You are so consistently wrong that the odds that you might be right here is low.

Besides that, Jesus never refused worship except here if we accept it is Jesus. If not, the…[Read more]

Only the Father is worshipped as God. Jesus is worshipped as the son of God, the Lamb of God, and the only begotten.

King David was worshipped as the king of Israel.

Only he s worshipped as God. Worship can also mean honour and be prostrate before.

Come on now, we know that some people are so called push-overs, that’s because their own wills are weak you can get them to do anything, while other people are very strong willed and you can’t convince them of anything.

Another example of free will.

Pushovers have chosen to be weak over a period of time. It is the accumulation of decisions the…[Read more]

Just as Jesus said, NOT as I WILL but AS YOU WILL.

A perfect example of free will. He chose to do the will of God even over his own will.

“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”

See how Jesus wanted to be spared from the suffering he was about to endure. But he knew that whatever God wanted was best.

Freedom,  we have to “do” our wills ,

Thank you. Yes we have free will. You might understand it differently, but you believe in free will according to your statement.

Proclaimer, Jesus was the messenger, that God sent to show John his servant who recorded it and took it to the Churches.   There was no angelic being involved ,

The word Angel,  means “messenger” there,   and Jesus is and was God’s  “messenger”,  to mankind.

That is possible, but you have to believe the following verse is talking about Jesus.

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Technically speaking, pure garbage is better than carnal wisdom.

Most of what Carmel writes is not part garbage it is  “pure garbage.” he wants us to believe he is somehow more qualified to explain scriptures then we are

I think you explained yourself here Gene. Lol.

This could be the court case of the decade.
And Soros is involved.

Proclaimer, the only time they seen Jesus was when he was walking around “above the Ground like them,   so they never saw him decend from heaven in the first place, so why would Jesus ask a question  like “what”   “if” , you “see” me”  asend where he was before , wouldn’t they first have to have seen  him decend, inorder to see him asend to where…

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Free will means you have a will and it is free to choose among the influences or things that have no influence.

Pick a number between 1200 and 2000.

1456.

I chose that number.

If that question was asked last week, I doubt I would have chosen that number.’

Now for things that influence me. I use to believe in Evolution and was a staunch…[Read more]

Proclaimer….Arguments never change minds, the truth of God

That is why we give you scripture.

Easily debunking some of the teachings of Jodi and Gene
What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

And there came unto me ONE of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me (John), saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.

And I am John, who hea…[Read more]