Your GOSPEL is bad news, because it pushes Jesus’ human IDENITY AWAY FROM HIS human  BROTHERS AND SISTER,   you remove him from the human race and try to place him some where else, which you by the way you don’t even know were.  You have quite the nerve saying what I say is bad news. 

This is a blatant lie. We have told you repeatedly that he e…[Read more]

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” (Matt 28:19)

the name of the Father – JEHOVAH

the name of the Son – Jesus

the name of the Holy Spirit – The Word

Encyclopedia Britannia, the 11th edition vol 3, page 365-366
“The baptismal formula was changed from the na…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..show me where what I am saying is not GOOD NEWS,

Example 1

A man follows and loves God his whole life. But he denies God on the last day of his life and tells him in no uncertain terms that he does not want God in his life ever again. He dies and is eternally cut off from God. On Judgement Day, he makes the argument that he had n…[Read more]

“His name is” God’s Holy Spirit’s name; not Jesus’ Christ’s name.

This is as clear as mud.

Gospel means good news. Genes doctrine is all bad news.

Berean. …….Thought he was rich, can mean many things

Like he was rich, emptied himself and became poor. As a human, lower than the angels from the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos.

David,  you are right , because there exists no such thing as a will that is free “itself”, God has given us freedom to express our “captivated” wills, will’s that are held captive by our thoughts  which causes us to will , rather good or evil,  everything is the result of “cause and effect”.

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Gene

I also asked you a question.

If his name is Jesus that means he is Jesus. If his name is The Word of God, that means he is…………………?

Here’s a clue. It starts with T, contains the Word ‘of’, and references his Father.

Looks like Ed J needs to answer this question too judging by a post further up the page.

Gene.

You know when you do not answer questions, it means you are stumped.

In fact you lost this debate ages ago, bt I realise that you may not be able to see that.

Berean asked you a question. At least admit your stumped. Ignoring it shows you are not interested in the truth.

I also asked you a question.

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@Lightenup

You teach that YHWH doesn’t have a son.

Yet you were free to think about it and come to that conclusion.

Gene. If this topic was the flat earth, you are the guy denying the globe.

Proclaimer. ….Sure it does, if your son “has” to speak for you , is it because you are to dumb to speak for yourself.  Now if your son tells me “your” words that you “gave him”,  to tell me,  that’s  a different story.

Nothing here negates him being The Word of God. He was with God in the beginning. That is what it says. Why do you hate the writ…[Read more]

Gene
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

It will be interesting to see what excuse he comes up this time. Lol. That is all he has. Excuses.

Proclaimer……That’s not my argument at all, and I do not think Jesus is dumb, nor do I think our Father God is either?

Always getting the wrong end of the stick. Something is blinding you time and time again. Or is it just wilful ignorance.

Your argument about ventriloquism suggests this is the conclusion of our belief that he is The Word of God.…[Read more]

Quoting someone never makes you that someone your quoting, nor his words either. If Jesus was God’s Word, tell us who he was talking to when he prayed, “himself”?

Silly.

If Jesus is at the right hand of God, the he is with God. If he came down from Heaven, emptied himself, came in the flesh, and obeyed God, then how does that negate him being…[Read more]

Your argument is basically this. If Jesus is The Word of God, then God is dumb. The only thing that is dumb is this argument. You are out of your depth in this conversation.

Proclaimer. ….tell me this does GOD even have HIS “OWN” WORDS,? , so when they heard the words , “this is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased,” was that Jesus talking to himself? Was Jesus a vantriliquest, did he throw his voice to make it appear someone else was speaking?

What are you babbling about. This post shows your innermost…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …….please show me the scripture that says Jesus was “born”  before Abraham. 

Already gone through this.

His name Jesus was given to him when he came in the flesh.

He has another name.

The Word of God.

The Word of God was in the beginning with God and all things were made through him.

The Word became flesh.

Jesus Christ came in th…[Read more]

Berean……I just go by what scriptures say

Not really.

“I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!“

to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

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