Proclaimer….what I see is, you and others here,  Do not understand the Greek word  “dia”  just that simple .  You also don’t believe what God the Father himself said,  in Isaiah. That he by “himself” and “alone” did it, SEEMS YOU DON’T  UNDERSTAND THE WORDS,  “ALONE AND BY MYSELF”.  Neither do you believe what Genesis one says about our creat…

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Thanks!

One thing we have to remember that we don’t have the original sayings of Jesus as per the NT Scholars. The writers of Matthew and Luke copied from Mark. The narrations and saying were developed after so many years of the actual events taken place. The Gospels were not the oldest writings in the NT. We know little about the historical Jesus from t…

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Again you have taken your supporting information from another Trinitarian website “Jews for Jesus”. You can check their statement of faith;

Of course I take things from here and there. That is good.

It’s really simple. There is revelation and then a greater revelation and then a full unveiling.

We are at the stage of the greater revelation and awaiting the time when all things will be revealed.

Of course, not all will accept the greater revelation. It is up to the individual.

John 6:14
“When the people saw the sign he had done, they said,…[Read more]

It’s crazy how Social Media banned and bans talk on the Coronoavirus origin and now scientists are now saying it likely came from the Wuhan Lab.

It seems the truth is not the truth till the elites tell us it is.

I know this is not the thread for arguing such theological Dogma. I don’t think Jesus was meant about these man made Pandemics. He was talking to the First Century crowds in their own context. Even if you take the latest Apocalyptic book Revelation it never talks about future times. All its imagery and symbols like horses, swords etc were all a…

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Australia will face ‘collateral attacks’ if war breaks out
It looks like New Zealand’s neighbour understands the threat all to well.

I am not surprised about your statement above. But Hebrew Bible does not support these ideas on God Yahweh. I know our NT had created problem for us to believe all these strange ideas.

Wrong. Name your no1 NT verse that supports the Trinity?

So for us believers there is one God the Father and one lord, the Lord Jesus Christ.

But for LU, there is one God the Father Son and Spirit. And one Lord, Lird Father, Lord Jesus, and Lord Spirit.

Did I crack the formula this time?

Proclaimer and Adam,

The Father + The Son + The Spirit = One God, One Lord, and One Spirit. All are identified as YHVH.

The Father alone is not One God, One Lord, and One Spirit.

I see. You have evolved from the Binity to the Trinity. This matches the history of the Trinity. It started as a Binity. The Spirit was added as the third member…[Read more]

LU. God made Jesus both lord and Christ.

Nobody made God as God.

Being made lord is not to disimilar to the pharoah who mde Joseph as lord over Egypt. While he was given the highest authority, it did not include authority over the pharoah.

Likewise, Jesusvas Lord means he reigns over all, except for God.

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You seem to believe that only one person is both God of gods as well as Lord of lords. Why do you disagree with Paul in 1 Cor 8:6 who says that we have one God and one Lord and they are two persons?

But LU, you believe two are God and two are Lord. You also err.

Nothing to see here folks.
Straight off the bat it is worth mentioning that words and languages evolve. A word that may well have been used to describe a pantheon of deities could then be used to describe the most high God when a people recognise that there is indeed one true God. It’s not hard to imagine people thinking their pantheon as being…[Read more]

I guess it is the verse that I have already addressed. Just checking.

“For us, there is one God the Father…”.

For everyone else, there is a long list of gods from Babylon.

LU: Therefore, wisdom couldn’t be His first work if He existed before His first work.

I’ve said this many times. If Trinitarians could rightly distinguish between an attribute and a person, then they wouldn’t be confused and consequently invent doctrines like the Trinity to explain this confusion

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Exposing the Real Jacinda Ardern
“And while New Zealanders were sleeping ……….“I am very much worried about my homeland,” says Trevor Louden, author and expert on communism and the Chinese Communist Party. Freedoms are gradually being ripped away from New Zealanders, “She (Ardern) is proposing laws that will clamp down on freedom of speech like…[Read more]

Berean……….It’s interesting how you people see the words ‘Jesus’ written there when it’s not really there,  but then again you people put all kinds of words in our scriptures and even contradict Jesus’ very own written words like when he said this in prayer to God the Father,  “that they might know you “THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD”,  AND the scripture…

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