As you probably know by now, I believe that YHVH is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords, two persons. The God of gods is YHVH, who is the Father, and the Lord of lords is YHVH, who is the Son.

I’m siding with Paul.

For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many so-called gods and lords), 6yet for u…[Read more]

Proclaimer,
You said: Propaganda again.
Please enlighten us and be more specific as to what he said that was wrong.

Science is open to scrutiny. It looks at the options and comes up with solutions that best fit the observation and is suppose to test all hypothesis.

Propaganda is a doctrine or theory that is not challenged or questioned. It…[Read more]

I’m wondering about Stu. Has he changed I wonder. Or is he stuck.

Hi proclaimer, I agree that the Bible was written by ancient non-scientific people. I don’t think it’s a scientific or historical book as many fundamentalist Christians believe here. You are forgetting that the Old Testament is the basic primary source for the Christian New testament.

Another failure gadam because the Bible doesn’t teach a fla…[Read more]

Hi Danny, it is good to know that you are not full pledged Trinitarian so far. In the Hebrew Bible ‘son of God’ never meant a literal divine being as imagined by the NT writers. Israel was called the first born son of God as per Ex 4:22 and King David’s son called ‘son of God’ as per 2 Sam 7:14 but they never meant as literal sons of God as misint…

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The NT writers were all Hellenistic polytheist believing Christians. What can we expect from these writers than a mystifying Jesus the supposed Messiah as divine being who preexisting before his human existence.

You lose credibility every time you make an ignorant statement like that.

This is the problem with the NT and Christianity. It revolves round and round the mulberry bush without coming out clearly that Jesus is God or man. I can see this on all threads of this Forum. You want to ‘kill the snake and also not want to break the stick’ an old saying in India.

Its real simple gadam. People read a book written in Greek, Heb…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

I still have a hard time to understand the begotten aspect of Jesus.
We both believe that Jesus shares the exact same nature as His Father.
Because He is His only begotten Son.
Well then how can we consider Him to be a lesser god?
Do you have a child, Proclaimer?
If so, then can you honestly say that your child is a lesser human…

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Gene, was “The Word of the King” in ancient Abyssinia a person or not?

Great question. Did he answer it?

Hi Proclaimer
That means he is not the Son of YHWH then.
Does it sound like denial of the Son?
Neither Proclaimer.

Okay, so he is not the son of YHWH according to you.

It’s good to establish some basic foundations of what you believe in order to answer you.

If the Jews and their interpretation of scripture is always correct gadam, then the earth is flat. Lol.

That means he is not the Son of YHWH then.

Does it sound like denial of the Son?

Hi Adam,

You: It’s quite interesting to see that a non-trinitarians can say Amen to a Trinitarian’s post.

Me: I’m not a Trinitarian.
I haven’t made up my mind yet. I’m still learning.

All I’m sure of and what I believe is that Yahweh is the Most High God.
And Jesus Christ is His beloved Son.

Danny. You have declared like Peter who Jesus is.
P…[Read more]

The Son of Man Must Be Lifted Up
27 “Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? But for this purpose I have come to this hour. 28 Father, glorify your name.” Then a voice came from heaven: “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again.” 29 The crowd that stood there and heard it said that it had thundered.…[Read more]

The son of “man”, Jesus was not and is not, the God that was “IN” him.

Correct.

Now that this is sorted, focus on the Word.

The Word was with God, was divine, became flesh, and was beheld as the Son of God for our eyes to see and ears to hear.

He was with God in the beginning, emptied himself, came in the flesh, was obedient to God, died, r…[Read more]

“We next notice John’s use of the article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue. In some cases he uses the article, and in some he omits it. He adds the article to the Word, but to the name of theos he adds it sometimes only. He uses the article, when the nam…[Read more]

I would need to check this, but I think an earthquake can be yahweh too.

Once again, a difference between identity and nature.

If Jesus Christ is the Messenger of YHWH, then there is plenty.

Gene, you are unable to grasp that there are many theos, but for US, there is one theos the Father.

But I will explain it for the readers.

Theos like Adam is a person but can also be used to describe nature.

For example, Eve is adam (mankind) but she is not Adam (the person).

So the Word is theos (divine nature) but is not God the…[Read more]