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Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
The non-existing Eternal Hell based on Greek mythology is another invention by the Christianity.
Where in the Bible does it teach an eternal hell?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
You only offer opinions.
If you cannot see the glorious plan of God, then that is not my fault.
It is your own fault.
You must be born from above.
Seriously.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
All the above assumptions are purely Christian inventions
This kind of comment would be expected by those that reject God and his plan. They reject revelation which is made possible by free will and wayward hearts.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
The messiah that you do not know.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Like the Pharisees, you missed the plan of God.
Start in Jerusalem, then Israel, then the utmost part of the world.
And this has happened.
You missed the boat.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
When people are closing their eyes and minds they can’t see the truth. So you think NT greater revelation than OT? This shows how biased are the Christian views.
It’s called progress. Should there be regress then?
Where in the Old Testament does it say this is the full revelation. Anything after that is fake. And the messiah will be king of I…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
The so called writer of Fourth Gospel claimed that his Gospel was written to prove that Jesus was Messiah but he proved otherwise as a godly (divine) being who was preexisting before his human birth.
Think about it. There must be someone who was the first to be with God because there are not two Gods. The one who was first begotten could have…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
So you say. It’s an opinion.
Even logic argues against you though.
If the messiah comes, obviously new things are going to happen.
Your view makes it impossible for the messiah.
Think about that.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
God has a plan to take sinful man to become sons of God. It started with a nation that he could work through because of a righteous man called Abraham. From this he blessed this nation, but removed his protection when they went after other gods and were often enslaved.
Next, God gave his law and his nation learned about sin and their true state,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
because of the ambiguity with strange concepts of Messiah who had supposedly involved in God’s creation and become a Savior figure who gives life to the dead which is no where found in the Hebrew Bible.
Something a person who is blind to the spiritual would say.
Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, except anyone be born f…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Yes you got the point behind my negation of the NT as it had deviated from its original source and made the mess of every thing.
Whereas, I see that the mess is in your own mind and some other people’s mind too. Both testaments are in perfect harmony. They are both revelations but the latter is greater. This is also true with regards to science.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Hi proclaimer, you blame me for not being spiritual?
Blame is a bit strong of a word. I believe we all have the choice to be spiritual or remain carnal.
For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.…
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
I just don’t understand at all how people believe that Jesus is the word of God as in he is the word of God
That is easy to answer. It comes from the New Testament and some people believe the New Testament.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things w…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
So you think that I am struck at carnal?
Correct. You say it evolved, but what if the plan of God is to take men from carnal to spiritual. Then you would see a basic understanding with numerous ways it could play out to revelation where we see it play out and understand its fulfillment.
And what if men believed based on their openness to…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Hi proclaimer, I agree that the Bible was written by ancient non-scientific people. I don’t think it’s a scientific or historical book as many fundamentalist Christians believe here. You are forgetting that the Old Testament is the basic primary source for the Christian New testament.
Once again, you have completely missed the point. I’ll spe…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
I have already quoted here I am not a Trinitarian as you seem to think about me. I am only debating here on the NT writings how they had deviated from their original source the Hebrew Bible.
As mentioned before, I realise that. My point is you assume that parts of the New Testament teach or allude to a Trinity leading adherents into confusion. So…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Revelation for the children of God can be considered evolution for others.
Proclaimer wrote a new post 4 years, 10 months ago
Frank Turek and Christopher Hitchens meet for their second debate. The title is “What Best Explains Reality: Atheism or Theism?”. Turek makes some good points with Hitchens responding by dodging the questions and

Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 4 years, 10 months ago
As you probably know by now, I believe that YHVH is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords, two persons. The God of gods is YHVH, who is the Father, and the Lord of lords is YHVH, who is the Son.
I’m siding with Paul.
For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many so-called gods and lords), 6yet for u…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 4 years, 10 months ago
Proclaimer,
You said: Propaganda again.
Please enlighten us and be more specific as to what he said that was wrong.Science is open to scrutiny. It looks at the options and comes up with solutions that best fit the observation and is suppose to test all hypothesis.
Propaganda is a doctrine or theory that is not challenged or questioned. It…[Read more]
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