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Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
I request Proclaimer and Princess to share some thing on the topic ‘Evolution of Satan’.
Why?
I request that you and say gene talk about the evolution of the platypus.
Why not.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
Your comparison of two different concepts (Newton and Einstein) is no where related to what I am questioning here on the concepts Messiah. Yes you are also entitled to close your eyes to such deviations.
And just like that you disregard the possibility of one deriving from another with scripture / revelation and allow it with science.
Sorry, but…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
The soul that sins shall die
Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that they should turn from their ways and live?
Amen.
Yet you say, “The way of the Lord is unfair.” Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way unfair? Is it not your ways that are unfair?
Amen.
Again, when the wicked turn away from the wick…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
23 Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that they should turn from their ways and live? 24 But when the righteous turn away from their righteousness and commit iniquity and do the same abominable things that the wicked do, shall they live? None of the righteous deeds that they have done shall be…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
Your Messiah is a mythical figure not the original Messiah talked in the Hebrew Bible. So what type of hope is this which mystified the very concepts of Messiah? Why hang on Messiah at all if you don’t want a Hebrew Messiah?
Jesus was a Hebrew.
He was a man.
He did what messiahs do. He saved.
The only thing you really disagree with is the s…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 5 years, 1 month ago
Grasping at straws again.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
This is what I am questing on the writings and the new secret revelation of the NT as they had deviated much from their primary source the Hebrew Bible on Messiah.
Newtown physics then Theory of relativity. A deviation or a progression? I guess you would say deviation given that Newtown did not mention many things that Einstein did.
You are…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
This was purely Christian misinterpretation of the Torah, first by Paul then by his followers.
I see. What is the correct interpretation? That the law condemns and we pray forever and ask for forgiveness? If so, how do we know your interpretation is not a misinterpretation? Do you have special revelation or something?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
The same thing applies to any one here as they are sticking to their age old myths which are not based on the Hebrew Bible. I too can quote the same logics for you too my friend.
It is obvious to anyone that the NT is based on the OT. For a start, it quotes the OT more times than I know. Same goes for other books too. The question is not whether…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic 1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
The Word was with God.
So whatever form the Word was.
Spirit would be a good guess.
But there is no clear teaching in scripture on this as far as I know.
So I don’t want to fall into the error of saying something is when I would only be making a logical guess.
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
I’ll state it like this.
Do you have a fishing rod? Yes.
Do you catch fish? Yes
Are you a fisherman?
See that. Not all people who catch fish are fishermen.
Not all who sin are sinners.
Not all who speak lies are liars.
At what point do you become a fisherman, sinner, or liar?
When you practice it.
I cannot tell you what exactly the t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
I’ll state it like this.
Do you have a fishing rod? Yes.
Do you catch fish? Yes
Are you a fisherman?
See that. Not all people who catch fish are fishermen.
Not all who sin are sinners.
Not all who speak lies are liars.
At what point do you become a fisherman, sinner, or liar?
When you practice it.
I cannot tell you what exactly the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Removing all feelings and emotions and looking at the facts only, those who teach lies are either doing it intentionally or are deceived in that area at least. If a person is deceived and then shown proof or even strong evidence to the contrary, the person has a choice, they either change or become more wilfully deceived and more wilfully they…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 5 years, 1 month ago
So if Jesus is God, then he is the son of himself.
No.
He is either God or His Son.
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Nature is not idetity.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
2 Chron 7:14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, pray, seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
This is not personal but us about the collective. If yiy could be forgiven for all sin, then why the need for the shedding of blood to cover…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 5 years, 1 month ago
The soul that sins will die. You will die. We all will die. Is that it. The God of the cosmos will let us all eternally die. Never to have life again.
We have a glorious hope because we accepted the messiah. What is your hope gadam?
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
The NT teaches about the natral body and spiritual body. How we imagine that is up for grabs. But it is part of the NT.
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Mike, who was it that apologized for using the word lie. I doubt that was me. Are you saying that it was me?
Now to be rational about what you have said above. I believed and still believe you were and are teaching lies on this subject. I even spelled out that to teach lies, one must be an intenional liar or deceived.
Please explain why this…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 1 month ago
Sorry no such expectation of Virgin born Messiah by the Hebrew please.
Young girl.
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