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Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
The same thing applies to any one here as they are sticking to their age old myths which are not based on the Hebrew Bible. I too can quote the same logics for you too my friend.
It is obvious to anyone that the NT is based on the OT. For a start, it quotes the OT more times than I know. Same goes for other books too. The question is not whether…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic 1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
The Word was with God.
So whatever form the Word was.
Spirit would be a good guess.
But there is no clear teaching in scripture on this as far as I know.
So I don’t want to fall into the error of saying something is when I would only be making a logical guess.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
I’ll state it like this.
Do you have a fishing rod? Yes.
Do you catch fish? Yes
Are you a fisherman?
See that. Not all people who catch fish are fishermen.
Not all who sin are sinners.
Not all who speak lies are liars.
At what point do you become a fisherman, sinner, or liar?
When you practice it.
I cannot tell you what exactly the t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
I’ll state it like this.
Do you have a fishing rod? Yes.
Do you catch fish? Yes
Are you a fisherman?
See that. Not all people who catch fish are fishermen.
Not all who sin are sinners.
Not all who speak lies are liars.
At what point do you become a fisherman, sinner, or liar?
When you practice it.
I cannot tell you what exactly the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Removing all feelings and emotions and looking at the facts only, those who teach lies are either doing it intentionally or are deceived in that area at least. If a person is deceived and then shown proof or even strong evidence to the contrary, the person has a choice, they either change or become more wilfully deceived and more wilfully they…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 4 years, 10 months ago
So if Jesus is God, then he is the son of himself.
No.
He is either God or His Son.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Nature is not idetity.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
2 Chron 7:14 if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, pray, seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.
This is not personal but us about the collective. If yiy could be forgiven for all sin, then why the need for the shedding of blood to cover…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
The soul that sins will die. You will die. We all will die. Is that it. The God of the cosmos will let us all eternally die. Never to have life again.
We have a glorious hope because we accepted the messiah. What is your hope gadam?
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
The NT teaches about the natral body and spiritual body. How we imagine that is up for grabs. But it is part of the NT.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Mike, who was it that apologized for using the word lie. I doubt that was me. Are you saying that it was me?
Now to be rational about what you have said above. I believed and still believe you were and are teaching lies on this subject. I even spelled out that to teach lies, one must be an intenional liar or deceived.
Please explain why this…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Sorry no such expectation of Virgin born Messiah by the Hebrew please.
Young girl.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Yahweh appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day.
He is the image of the invisible God. He is the Word. He speaks on behalf of God. He represents God. The Messenger of God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 4 years, 10 months ago
Now, if everyone who was called “theos” was also called “YHVH.” that is where the mass confusion would come. So we are to follow after the theos who is YHVH. It just so happens that the Father is the theos who is identified as YHVH and the Son is the theos who is identified as YHVH. They are both identified as the theos in the NT and they are bot…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 4 years, 10 months ago
I will repeat this in case my post is too long for you to read.
So yes, many can be called ‘theos’ (singular), just not when referencing them in plural.
Move on please.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 4 years, 10 months ago
“It simply is saying that ‘theos’ can be applied to one or many.”
That is what is not true because the plural is not spelled t h e o s, as you finally realized, as well as the fact that you included theos as an example of a word that is spelled the same in the plural as in the singular in your “sheep list.”
Yes I have already acknowledged the plu…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
I’ll explain it another way.
First came the law, then came grace.
You are free to not believe.
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
By the way, the plan is still in action. There is further revelation to come.
Your view appears to be more about the constraints of your own mind than what the Old…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
Then you question your Old Testament my friend. If the NT writers claimed to have got new secret revelation as often quoted by you here they could have very well done without quoting the so called Old Testament. If you want a new revelation and a new religion we have plenty here in our India. We need not look to the Christian one.
I’ve already…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 10 months ago
I think this is going little personally as your posts are attacking on personal spirituality which is not warranted on these unending debates. I have also asked you to study the Torah and get enlightened which you seem to ignore and take it so lightly. Please stop this black mailing with words like ‘carnal’ and ‘born from above’ which are simp…
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 10 months ago
Your second example contains your own words which I have no control over. That is not proof or evidence that I have said you are a liar is it?
If you cannot provide even one example Mike, then you are falsely accusing me.
Please provide an example or admit you are wrong.
Thanks.
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