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Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 17 2004,17:58)Hi T8,I can see where you are coming from, but there is a key difference between the verses you cited and Genesis 18. In Gen 18:1 it says “Now the LORD appeared…” it doesnt say the “angel of the LORD” (which I believe is an OT name for Jesus) or anything else that would indicate that it was a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Laying on of Hands in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 3 months ago
Hi Nick, Is this person saved?1) Believes in God2) Believes that Jesus Christ is the Messiah.3) Believes that Jesus died for the sins of all humanity and was then risen from the dead and is seated at the right hand of God interceeding from us.4) Repents of their sins and asks for forgiveness for sins committed.5) Is baptized in water as a symbol…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 3 months ago
To Is 1:18, I found my writing based on Genesis 18.See below:=========First I would like to start with the apparent contradictions with the Old and New Testaments.New Testament1 John 4:12 (English-NIV) No one has ever seen God; ….Or 1 Timothy 1:17 (English-NIV) Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic There are 2 not 3 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 3 months ago
Hi guys, I am glad that this topic is being discussed. Although I am yet to understand this subject, I look forward to learning the truth about it. I pray and ask God to reveal his truth to those who search for it, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.A discussion similar to this one is located @ http://heaven.net.nz/cgi-bin….=3;st=0You may be able…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 14 2004,16:33)Scripture does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity but rather bears witness to a God who demands to be understood in a Triune manner. The Father is revealed in Christ, through the Spirit. People like Paul accepted this and hence he never developed a systematic theology pertaining to the Trinity.”God BlessPS,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Guest @ July 15 2004,05:55)T8 you said:”The point I am making and has been debated extensively in the Trinity Discussion, is that the last word “god” is not proceeded with an article and is therefore an adjective or description of nature, rather than an identity.”Yes in the Trinity discussion I made many posts showing that no orthodox…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Who is this Jesus? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 3 months ago
Thx Is 1:18, I think this is a wise thing to do.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Laying on of Hands in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2004,14:47)You seem to preach that false teaching that salvation is by faith alone.This is what I preached on the salvation page.You need to acknowledge that God exists and is a rewarder of those who seek him. You must also acknowledge that you are a sinner. You need to ask God for forgiveness of your sins and promise…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2004,12:47)Yes call me Nick as that is my name and I stand behind what I write. “By their fruit you will know them” -Anyone can write fine words but reputation,attitude and actions speak more clearly and if I am to build trust in you then perhaps I and others could know more about you. No I have nothing against you and…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 12 2004,22:21)Hi T8You posting on Zech 14 does'nt address the issue at all. Clearly that Zech scripture referred to Jesus, as does Is 44:6 and Rev 19:16. I also find Genesis 18 interesting and would like your opinion on who exactly visited Abraham.God BlessYes I know.I even said in my last post that I would address it later.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Laying on of Hands in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 4 months ago
I agree with the laying on of hands to impart gifts and ministries etc. But the salvation page is about salvation only. Hopefully once a person realises his need of salvation and has repented of his sin and believes that God sent his Son (Jesus) to die for him and was resurrected and sits at the right hand of the Majesty on high interceeding for…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
Hi Nick, I agree with your last post, but I am still not sure what you are getting at.Do you still have a problem with me or something I said?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Who is this Jesus? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 4 months ago
You still quote from the NT to prove your argument, but part of your argument is that the NT is corrupt. So you either contradict your own belief or you simply pick and choose for yourself that some things are scripture and others that contradict your beliefs cannot be scripture.Doesn't that just seem a bit big-headed or even weird? I mean if I…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2004,22:41)I am surprised you would feel challenged by my letter as there was no such intent. I do find it strange though that someone who gives expert spiritual advice should hide behind a cloak of anonymity. I find your answers well researched and carefully presented and your forum is potentially very useful to God.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 29 2004,00:06)2. In Zech 14:3-4: The word LORD is used to describe Jesus returning to the mount of olives. ” Then the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations, as on when He fights on a day of battle. And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives” This is clearly a description of Jesus, a fact that is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
But are you not challenging me when you say this?Also, I certainly challenge error when it is taught. But if someone believes something that is incorrect, then yes I agree that we should tread carefully and often times their mis-belief is not really that important anyway. But with foundational stuff, and especially with those who teach, I will be…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 10 2004,12:42)What I meant was, you aren't doing that. You are actively teaching your theology in your web site articles – even though you acknowledge that you yourself are still seeking truth and learning.Why should any teacher stop searching for truth everyday. What I teach is what I have learned and challenged and prayed…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 09 2004,23:31)“…and THEY shall become ONE (echad) flesh” It is not used the same way we use it in our English. Anyway, something for you to consider I suppose.Yes one in nature, but 2 in identity.This is no different with God and his son. Just as the woman came from the Man, Yashua came from God. He is of God and the woman…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 09 2004,23:31)The issue of Jesus' true identity is, after all, collosally important and surely you realise that your refutation is not mainstream christian doctrine. The denial of His deity is in actual fact one of the common identifying characteristics of the various cults. Believe it or not, we both share viseral aversion…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Jesus God? in the forum Truth or Tradition 22 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 09 2004,23:31)but dont you think you better do things in your specified order: i.e “learn truth, then teach it”, Not the other way around.I am not sure what you are saying here, because that is exactly what I said in a previous post. i.e. learn truth, then teach it.
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