Hi Sammo, Hebrews 6:1-2Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, 2 instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. I can't see that belief in the Devil…[Read more]

Good point nate, Quote (Sammo @ Sep. 26 2004,18:15)Well, exactly – the Bible never calls the devil an angel. That bit's inferred.Sammo, you didn't explain the obvious from the following scriptures.1) He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.2) And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.3) Michael and his angels…[Read more]

Amen to that Nick.Also the following verses show that the Devil is a person who is at least in charge of his angels. So what is he himself?Matthew 25:41″Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.Revelation 12:7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 24 2004,23:10)t8, isnt this another reference to Jesus?? (LORD)Perhaps it is LORD. If so, then I would suggest that the LORD will send his Christ to bring vengance on the wicked. Jesus taught us explicitly that no man can see God and only he can reveal him to us. God doesn't just turn up and walk down the street or ride a…[Read more]

I think there is merit to a pre-trib rapture, especially considering what happened with the flood and Sodom and Gommorah. They were saved before the disaster and the end times are said to be like those times.But it also depends on the length of the tribulation. I heard a teacher on this subject point out once that the Tribulation being a 7 year…[Read more]

That seems logical to me too. But the only prob I see here is that we could know the day and hour? Or is the day and hour for the return of Christ only?

Yes I believe that.I was wondering if we are taken before or at the end.I think that there will be a translation of those who are in Christ and ready, perhaps before the Tribulation or during it.I haven't really looked into it in depth, but I know there is debate about the timing of this. Pre, Mid, Post etc.I was wondering if there is also a…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ Sep. 24 2004,16:37)hmm… but do you think he was using fear? you know – the end of the world, the great tribulation, etc…  there was a show (it might still be going) called “heaven's gates, hell's flames” – and the whole thing is just a series of skits where the person who goes to church, also goes to heaven, but the person who…[Read more]

Quote (Sammo @ Sep. 24 2004,13:02)If “slanderer” were personified, I don't think it would.Slanderer means a person does it not?Who was the first to slander? Who was the first to lie? Who was the first to murder? Who was the first to sin? Someone had to be. Someone had to be the Father (originator) of such things.Yes break the scriptures down using…[Read more]

Quote (Sammo @ Sep. 24 2004,12:10)Then prove it.Matthew 4:11Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him. Matthew 13:39and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. Matthew 25:41″Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal…[Read more]

I guess that is possible that Jesus said to Peter get behind me adversary. But that seems a bit strong a word to say to his own disciple though. But I strongly suspect that he was adressing the Spirit that inspired his words. Also I haven't had time to look up the Greek to see if the article is present or not, so I really cannot make a final…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 23 2004,16:09)2.The Lord was later than expected, in fact at the last possible moment.Actually I read that yesterday or another scripture that said the same thing. There is also another scripture somewhere that says those who hold onto the end will be saved.I remember taking note of that for further consideration.There is…[Read more]

I went to one of Barry's meetings and he said a lot of things that didn't come to pass. But he was also very strict with preaching the gospel and he always got a lot of responses when he preached the gospel too. Somethings he said were also very true and did require insight however. He included a picture in one of his books of a plane flying…[Read more]

Yes I think it is part of the shaking all things process so that what is not of God will fall away.I remember many christians saying back in the 80s, that the year 2000 was the big one. 6 days for this age and the 7th being the sabath or the Millenium. So the year 2000 was the 6000th year or thereabouts.I remember thinking that such thinking was…[Read more]

Quote (Sammo @ Sep. 23 2004,12:00)Yeah? We do believe that heaven is a place, and that Jesus is there as we speak, on God's right hand. We also believe in literal angels.I knew a lady who was a Christadelphian. When I mentioned Heaven she corrected me with the words “good thoughts” and likewise Hell as bad thoughts.So I guess that she was not a…[Read more]

Yes I agree with Nicks post.Also, if Satan here has an article then Jesus was talking to Satan the person. Remember Jesus said that Satan desires you Peter to sift you as wheat. Satan the person is the inspiration behind all evil and lies. In fact he is the god of this Age. The reason Jesus came to earth was to destroy his works.Surely Satan…[Read more]

Hi Sammo, I am aware that Christadelphians believe that heaven is not a place but a state of good thought and hell is the opposite. I am also aware that they do not believe in literal angels and a literal devil.But we both have to admit that the scriptures are full of references to persons who are angels, demons and Satan.Yes I agree with you that…[Read more]

If faith is trusting in something, then belief is perhaps the lowest form of faith. To believe in something means that you trust that it is true to the point of accepting it intellectually or as a fact. But losing or risking your life for your belief is the greatest expression of that belief and therefore is great faith.The terms great faith and…[Read more]

That is my take too, but it is possible that this Angel works closely with Christ regarding the salvation of men. Hebrews 1:14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation.

A lot more could be said in this post, but James also quotes from the book. Quotations were also known from the Church Fathers.In the book it also says:Enoch was the grandfather of Noah. The Book of Enoch chapter 68:1 “And after that my grandfather Enoch gave me all the secrets in the book and in the parables which had been given to him, and he…[Read more]