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Proclaimer replied to the topic Fallen angels in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Amen to that Nick.Also the following verses show that the Devil is a person who is at least in charge of his angels. So what is he himself?Matthew 25:41″Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.Revelation 12:7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic God's plan of salvation as revealed in Scripture in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 24 2004,23:10)t8, isnt this another reference to Jesus?? (LORD)Perhaps it is LORD. If so, then I would suggest that the LORD will send his Christ to bring vengance on the wicked. Jesus taught us explicitly that no man can see God and only he can reveal him to us. God doesn't just turn up and walk down the street or ride a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic God's plan of salvation as revealed in Scripture in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
I think there is merit to a pre-trib rapture, especially considering what happened with the flood and Sodom and Gommorah. They were saved before the disaster and the end times are said to be like those times.But it also depends on the length of the tribulation. I heard a teacher on this subject point out once that the Tribulation being a 7 year…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic God's plan of salvation as revealed in Scripture in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
That seems logical to me too. But the only prob I see here is that we could know the day and hour? Or is the day and hour for the return of Christ only?
Proclaimer replied to the topic God's plan of salvation as revealed in Scripture in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Yes I believe that.I was wondering if we are taken before or at the end.I think that there will be a translation of those who are in Christ and ready, perhaps before the Tribulation or during it.I haven't really looked into it in depth, but I know there is debate about the timing of this. Pre, Mid, Post etc.I was wondering if there is also a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic God's plan of salvation as revealed in Scripture in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Guest @ Sep. 24 2004,16:37)hmm… but do you think he was using fear? you know – the end of the world, the great tribulation, etc… there was a show (it might still be going) called “heaven's gates, hell's flames” – and the whole thing is just a series of skits where the person who goes to church, also goes to heaven, but the person who…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Fallen angels in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Sammo @ Sep. 24 2004,13:02)If “slanderer” were personified, I don't think it would.Slanderer means a person does it not?Who was the first to slander? Who was the first to lie? Who was the first to murder? Who was the first to sin? Someone had to be. Someone had to be the Father (originator) of such things.Yes break the scriptures down using…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Fallen angels in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Sammo @ Sep. 24 2004,12:10)Then prove it.Matthew 4:11Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him. Matthew 13:39and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. Matthew 25:41″Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Fallen angels in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
I guess that is possible that Jesus said to Peter get behind me adversary. But that seems a bit strong a word to say to his own disciple though. But I strongly suspect that he was adressing the Spirit that inspired his words. Also I haven't had time to look up the Greek to see if the article is present or not, so I really cannot make a final…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic God's plan of salvation as revealed in Scripture in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 23 2004,16:09)2.The Lord was later than expected, in fact at the last possible moment.Actually I read that yesterday or another scripture that said the same thing. There is also another scripture somewhere that says those who hold onto the end will be saved.I remember taking note of that for further consideration.There is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic God's plan of salvation as revealed in Scripture in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
I went to one of Barry's meetings and he said a lot of things that didn't come to pass. But he was also very strict with preaching the gospel and he always got a lot of responses when he preached the gospel too. Somethings he said were also very true and did require insight however. He included a picture in one of his books of a plane flying…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic God's plan of salvation as revealed in Scripture in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Yes I think it is part of the shaking all things process so that what is not of God will fall away.I remember many christians saying back in the 80s, that the year 2000 was the big one. 6 days for this age and the 7th being the sabath or the Millenium. So the year 2000 was the 6000th year or thereabouts.I remember thinking that such thinking was…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Fallen angels in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Sammo @ Sep. 23 2004,12:00)Yeah? We do believe that heaven is a place, and that Jesus is there as we speak, on God's right hand. We also believe in literal angels.I knew a lady who was a Christadelphian. When I mentioned Heaven she corrected me with the words “good thoughts” and likewise Hell as bad thoughts.So I guess that she was not a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Fallen angels in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Yes I agree with Nicks post.Also, if Satan here has an article then Jesus was talking to Satan the person. Remember Jesus said that Satan desires you Peter to sift you as wheat. Satan the person is the inspiration behind all evil and lies. In fact he is the god of this Age. The reason Jesus came to earth was to destroy his works.Surely Satan…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Fallen angels in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Hi Sammo, I am aware that Christadelphians believe that heaven is not a place but a state of good thought and hell is the opposite. I am also aware that they do not believe in literal angels and a literal devil.But we both have to admit that the scriptures are full of references to persons who are angels, demons and Satan.Yes I agree with you that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic faith and works in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
If faith is trusting in something, then belief is perhaps the lowest form of faith. To believe in something means that you trust that it is true to the point of accepting it intellectually or as a fact. But losing or risking your life for your belief is the greatest expression of that belief and therefore is great faith.The terms great faith and…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did Enoch write of Jesus? in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 22 years, 1 month ago
That is my take too, but it is possible that this Angel works closely with Christ regarding the salvation of men. Hebrews 1:14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Book of Enoch in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 22 years, 1 month ago
A lot more could be said in this post, but James also quotes from the book. Quotations were also known from the Church Fathers.In the book it also says:Enoch was the grandfather of Noah. The Book of Enoch chapter 68:1 “And after that my grandfather Enoch gave me all the secrets in the book and in the parables which had been given to him, and he…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did Enoch write of Jesus? in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 22 years, 1 month ago
Yes that is interesting.
Proclaimer replied to the topic faith and works in the forum Scriptural Teachings 22 years, 1 month ago
Cool, It is by faith that we recieve God's Spirit. Without faith we cannot recieve it.So going back to what itsme said”hey. yeah, the only thing i was saying is that to be actually saved and be glorifying the Lord, you can't only have faith, but you can't only have works either. It requires both together, but faith comes before the works. …[Read more]
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