If you love God then you will also love truth for truth is of God. If you follow man then you will have a problem with truth and resist it. For God is not a man that he should lie. If we are to repent, then turn from the things of man and to God and his works. After all God is love and the works of man are based on pride.

To Rudy, When you cannot defend truth with scripture you can always resort to false accusations. That is what they did to Christ and so they will do to those who follow him. What else can I say. For what sin have I committed that you should speak to me with such words?

You have made your point, but I put truth higher than social etiquette. Lets imagine for a moment that Martin Luther took your attitude and decided that rather than create a 'them' and 'us' division I will keep quiet about such things as salvation not by works. Also how sucessful was he in restoring truth back to God's people? Was his success…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 24 2005,20:49)Hi t8,Thanks for the reply.Quote What type of being is Yeshua. He is a son. But he is much more than a son. He is the son. The firstborn. He is the only one to have been begotten by God alone. We who are born from above were created by God through Christ and then we were born again by the Word of God. You could…[Read more]

Quote (stroshow @ April 24 2005,13:21)Just to be clear on WHO appeared to Abraham Acts 7:2- And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,So again, it is clear that GOD HIMSELF APPEARED,(stephen is ref. to the account in Genesis 12, yet…[Read more]

Quote (Rudy @ April 24 2005,12:25)Rev. 19: 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was…[Read more]

Quote (Rudy @ April 24 2005,12:25)What you continue to fail to realize is that Jesus is God the Son.  He and the Father are one!What you have failed to realise is that Jesus is the son of God. He is one with the Father in the same way that Jesus wants the church to be one and then one with them. Unity in the spirit, not unity in identity. God,…[Read more]

To Is 1:18 , Technically speaking he is a god just as we are gods and so is the Father a god. God (elohim, theos) is a term applied to many and is usually used to define the word 'authority'.What type of being is Yeshua. He is a son. But he is much more than a son. He is the son. The firstborn. He is the only one to have been begotten by God…[Read more]

Rudy, you say that there is one throne for God and the lamb. That is true, but what are you hoping to dervive from that truth. For just as Christ is seated with the Father on the Fathers throne, we too will be seated with Christ on his throne. Just because Christ is seated with the Father doesn't make them the same God, and we who are seated with…[Read more]

Quote (Rudy @ April 23 2005,12:47)Did Yeshua not say “I and my Father are ONE”?Hi Rudy,Yes he did say that and he also said that we can be one with each other and with them. The one he talked about is unity which is one in spirit.Yashua is not Yahweh. He is his son. People get confused about the Divine and divine nature. Yashua is divine, but he…[Read more]

Good post Greg.

All men should indeed honour the son and the Father. We need to honour both in order to truly honour each one.But only the Father is worshipped as God. Yehsua is worshipped/honoured as the Lamb and the son of God. He is not worshipped as God in scripture.Hebrews 1:6And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's…[Read more]

To stroshow, No one can see God for he is invisible and he is Spirit.But God manifests himself through his creation. So creation bears witness to the invisible God. But creation is not God himself.Some verses where men are suppose to have seen God, you will find on closer study what they really saw was a representitive of God such as the Lord's…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 23 2005,21:51)Quote (t8 @ April 22 2005,22:13)Quote (Guest @ April 23 2005,16:52)Im with you Rudy, Jesus and the Father share the name YHWHMark 12:29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:That is commandment 1. Notice that Christ said OUR God.You are wrong…[Read more]

To whomever,Yes Nick. One is God and the other is the lamb. One is the Majesty on high and the other is seated at his right-hand side. One is YHWH and the other is his son.To know God is to know Jesus who is the image of the invisible God, but if you say that they are both the same God, then what is that saying about you knowing God?The Trinity…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ April 23 2005,16:52)Im with you Rudy, Jesus and the Father share the name YHWHMark 12:29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:That is commandment 1. Notice that Christ said OUR God.You are wrong with this. It is not good to change the truth of God for a lie.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 22 2005,03:52)Hi guys,It seems to me that God is a restorer, One who brings together. Satan, on the other hand, appears to have an agenda of fracturing, separating…..divide and conquer as they say.This generalisation is too simple. God restores truth and will cast away/divide anything that is not of him.Matthew 10:34-35…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2005,05:58)Given that 99%+ of professing christians belong to denominational churches, in who's best interest is it when an individual member rejects all churches on doctrinal grounds, physically isolates him/herself from christian fellowship and never again seeks it, God's or Satan's?I doubt your quote that 99% of…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2005,04:07)Question: How many trinitarians have been “turned around” in this forum?Answer: ZEROTo Is 1:18,You are wrong with that assumption. Try reading the following discussion for a start.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….=1;t=12I have also personally recieved many emails from people who believe what the Trinity…[Read more]

Quote (Rudy @ April 18 2005,09:29)This, in my opinion, is far worse than the trinitarian or oneness doctrine because people actually come to Christ through those means but once in, are diverted down a perverted path that leads to destruction.Maybe? Philippians 1:15-18Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. The…[Read more]