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    I don't know any personally. But I think you will find that most denominations are built on top of a Nicene based creed of some kind. I think that is what the definition of a denomination sometimes.I would suggest that you find people and fellowship with them in houses or whatever. If you can't find anyone then make disciples. Sorry I can't be of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2005,17:42)Hi, Some people in studying the subject of the Son of God are realising what an extraordinary being he is. If a blind man had never seen the moon before and did for the first time he would be staggered at it's beauty and nature. But the moon reflects the glory of the far greater Sun. Likewise the Son of God…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 03 2005,16:27)Quote (t8 @ May 02 2005,11:58)Look at all those crazy scientists who understand many wonders of the universe and yet do not attribute any of it to God.Yes, but while they operate within the parameters of logic, their conclusions are inherently illogical – wouldn't you agree? :)Their conclusions can be very logical…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 02 2005,20:30)If we are to objectively debate objective truth on these, or any other, matters then we must stay within the parameters of logic and reasonI can tell you that I do value logic and it is important to me. But I choose to start with what God has revealed first and study the scriptures to understand that which my…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2005,01:00)Hi Is and t8 Coll 2.9″ For in him all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form””him “of course refers to Jesus Christ.Since the “fullness of deity” dwells “in” him then he must not be that deity. Jesus has divine nature as the Son of God but he cannot be the deity that dwells in him surely? Otherwise he…[Read more]

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    To Is 1:18,Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 01 2005,21:20)From this premise I will construct a logical argument:1. since the Son of God is also of the same 'kind' as his Father,2. and the Father is a God kind,3. then Jesus must be a God kind.Can you refute this? If so, which pt is incorrect and how?To Is 1:18,I agree with that. I have said all along that God…[Read more]

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    True Nick, It is not about certain people winning and others losing. It is simply about the truth winning. Once the truth shines out, people will be easily able to accept it. I am a willing recipient of truth too. Is 1:18, if you cannot find fault in my teaching, then have you considered that the reason maybe that I am teaching truth. You know I…[Read more]

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    So are you saying that Jesus is not literally or specifically divine, rather he is divine by suggestion only?

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2005,21:25)Quite so cubes, Sent by the Father, anointed with the Spirit of the Father to do the work of the Father in the Father's name.Yes and we are sent by Christ, anointed by the Spirit to do the works of God in the name of Yeshua our Lord.Christ came in his Father's name and we come in his name.It reminds me of…[Read more]

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    Amen Cubes.Eternal life is in the son and if we are in the son, then we have his life. We are the branches and he is the true vine.It really fills me with joy to know that if we are in the son we have eternal life. It is a gift beyond comprehension. I praise God for this.Isaiah 64:4Since ancient times no one has heard, no ear has perceived,…[Read more]

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    But not in a denotative sense?

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    Is Jesus Christ a divine being or not?Jesus Christ is ___ divine being.You can put 'a' or 'not a' into the gap. This is how high I want you to jump. :)

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    Incorrect.I gave you Colossians 2:9For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,I then went to the trouble of explaining the word deity and the Greek word for it which is divinity.I then showed clearly that God has divine nature and that we will partake in it. I gave you 3 scriptures that speak on this. One regarding God,…[Read more]

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    Quote (liljon @ April 30 2005,10:37)1 peter 1:11 Spirit of ChristYahweh Is Jesus Zechariah 14:5 Romans 10 1 Thess 3:13 Hebrews 1:10Oh so when Jesus was transfigured, who was it who spoke from heaven and said “this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased”?So if Jesus/Yeshua is Yahweh then who was it who spoke?

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 29 2005,22:01)Hi t8,Just for the record, this was my purpose:Quote I hope you can now better understand why I can't accept your teaching on ChristNot to judge or condemn you. If 'divine' is the correct word then you should have no trouble giving me scriptures that explicitly prove it so. But, of course, they must speak…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 29 2005,22:10)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2005,22:42)Quote The Son of God is also of the same 'kind' as his FatherDo you understand the implications of the words you have written here?It means that Jesus is the son. It is what God declared to Peter. Jesus is the son of God. A son should be like his Father. This son is the…[Read more]

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    Hey welcome Copperlyne,I do not think that there is much in the bible itself, but I know that other authors have written on this subject.I heard someone say that the first heaven was the sphere around the earth where demonic princes dwell. The next level is the starry universe and the 3rd was the Throne room of God. I really do not know for sure…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 28 2005,22:18)Quote How high do you want me to jump again? :DThis high t8:Quote Jesus is a being.This is not a point scoring exercise t8. Since we agree on the issue of 'Who Jesus is' (He is the Christ, the son of the living God), the issue of Jesus' being is actually the nexus, the epicentre of the debate over His deity. To…[Read more]

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    Quote No t8, I will not accept the word “devine”. And nor should I. It is, at best, merely connotative (by your reasoning, that is) and not at all denotative of the being of Jesus. I need a word that denotes the being of Jesus in the same way that the word 'human' denotes ours. This is a legitimate question and I need a legitimate answer. Where…[Read more]

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    Also we should be careful as to what we partake in. We too can be held accountable for just partaking. If you know it is wrong, then do not partake.You are free to align yourself with any true believer in God's kingdom if you yourself are a true believer. It doesn't even have to be a denomination. I personally find meeting in homes to be a good…[Read more]

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