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Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
God os spirit. When he works in the material, he often uses others who are composed of material.
In the case of the divine Word that was with him in the beginning, it makes sense that there is an intermediatory between God and his material creation.
If God is love, then love requires someone to love. It is because of love that anyone exists and…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
Gene, much of what you say in your last post is correct IMO. But your application of it misses the mark.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
Adam: First you convince your Christian brothers and sisters here, on your so called convictions. Then I will understand your convictions are reasonable and based on truth.
You will never arrive at the truth with such demands.
Imagine if you ask the same question of the Pharisees and teachers of the law.
Personally I find Mike to be pretty spot…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
Does God have essence or IS God essence? Can you answer that?
God shares his divine nature with his Sons, so divinity doesn’t make you God himself.
Likewise, He us the Father of Spirita, thus being a spirit doesn’t make you God
God is God because he is eternal And in the context if Sons, God is the Father.
Jesus Christ on the otherhand is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
Sone good replues from this page Mike. Totally agree.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
Eve is adam / man (mankind).
Eve is not Adam.
The Word was divine / theos.
The Word is not The God / The Theos.
Nature or essence is not the identity or person.
If divinity is the person of God, then yes the Word is God himself and so are all those who participate in that nature.
Once again. Confusion over nature vs identity.
The Trinity…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
If so, then the essence in God is the same in age as the essence in His Son.
Further, if we are born from above and participate in divine nature, then we too are eternal and as old ass God?
See how easy it is to debunk false teaching?
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
If so, then the essence in God is the same in age as the essence in His Son.
See it is true. The Trinity / Binity treat God as a substance or essense.
But God is a person / identity.
As I said earlier, “God has divine nature, but many teach divine nature has God” and you have proved my point.
The Father is God.
The Son is a son of God.
The…[Read more]
Proclaimer posted a new activity comment 4 years, 8 months ago
Jesus Christ is the Word of God. The Word was divine. Although he existed in the form of God, he emptied himself, came in flesh, lived as one of us, died for our sin, rose from the dead, and is in the glory he had with the Father before the world began. In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was divine.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
Adam: Yes he will not be an old man as you rightly pointed out but he will certainly be a warrior prince. It will be an end time Messianic kingdom where the Israelites will live there forever with their children and grandchildren and David will be their prince forever. I think this is possible with resurrection beliefs in the Hebrew religion. It…
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
Well put Mike.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Book of Jasher in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 4 years, 8 months ago
This video argues that this Book of Jasher is not the book mentioned a couple of times in the Bible.
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
Hi Proclaimer, I asked you earlier what’s the truth here?
First you convince your Christian brothers and sisters here, on your so called convictions. Then I will understand your convictions are reasonable and based on truth.
If you say that Jesus is God, then you have serious contradictions in the scripture. If you say he is and only ever was a c…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 8 months ago
If we reject sacrifice, mercy, and grace, then we might as well throw away the Old Testament. These by the way are the theme of the New Testament. God desires mercy over sacrifice, but sometimes you need to sacrifice something to gain mercy. This is true even in our lives. Elite athletes for example sacrifice their social life to attain trophies.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 9 months ago
it’s seems like your god says, well you didn’t make the cut so whilst we wait here in heaven you all are going to have to suffer it out on earth, here’s a book ………….good luck.
And prophets, teachers, preachers, apsotles, etc. Not to mention that we can call on the name of the Lord at anytime.
there is also the revelation of kepha that states a…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 4 years, 9 months ago
lol
you know t8 sometimes you astonish me.
Your god changed things up with his son. Satan however seems the same to you. is that irony or an oxymoron, i cant decide.It’s neither.
It is obvious that men are dealing with sin in the Old Testament. And Satan is the author of that sin. There has to be an author. The Son of God on the other hand is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did Jesus Eat Meat? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 9 months ago
Well put Ed J
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Hi Proclaimer, thanks again for your reply to my post. I am not alone in stating that the NT is diversity than unity on the nature of Jesus.
It really is not hard to understand. I guess that God makes people blind to this by handing them over to the spirit of confusion.
The Word that was with God was divine and became flesh and is now back in the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Nice try but that is not what the trinity is.
Incorrect. The Trinity which is basically the creed of the Catholic Church and daughters basically states that the Trinity is a matter of salvation in that adherents need to believe that God is a Trinity in Unity made of the same substance. The members are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 9 months ago
Yes the poetic passage you quoted from Phil 2 is mythic in nature on Jesus the man. It is a much debated topic on various Forums. ‘God sending his beloved son for redemption of souls’ is no where found in the Hebrew Bible. If it is so much important a theme, I think the Hebrew Bible certainly must have recorded it and reminded every one on thi…
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