Is 1:18,Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 24 2006,01:17)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 04 2006,14:42)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 05 2006,05:02)If you are proposing that these Lords and gods are also “divine” than you are truly a polytheist.To Is 1:18,Ok let's see. Jesus says we are gods (theos) and Paul teaches us that we will partake in the divine nature. So am I to con…[Read more]

To david,Quote (david @ Feb. 22 2006,01:40)Give a person a Bible without God's name removed and ask him to read it for the first time. Or give 1000 people the Bible and tell them to read it for the first time. Will a single one of them arrive at the trinity belief?I agree that if they read scripture in an honest way with no taint to certain…[Read more]

You know what Eliyah, I am not against you or your teaching. I am certainly open to the possibilty that we should shun all that is Greek (even language) and return to the Hebrew names of God etc. I have even stated this in some earlier posts, before you came here.But I have 2 hats. One is as T8 a man seeking the truth with all his heart, and the…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 18 2006,15:25)When Yahshua came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the son of man am? And they said, Some Yahchanan the immerser: some, Yliyah; and others, Yeremyah, or one of the prophets. He said unto them, But whom say you that I am? And Simon Kepha answered…[Read more]

Quote What happened here was not harmony with all points of view, but align yourself with truth or bye bye. T8I apologize as I seem to of offended you. However I would like to point out that I did not say we should align with all points of view, but with all scripture. I in no way meant we should (in anyway) compromise the word of God. My only…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 19 2006,21:55)T8,I really am ready to move past this “you're falsely accusing me”….. “no you are!” business.Just detail for me what I need to apologise for, and I will…..I say this all the time to my wife.Yay.In that case I am willing to forget about it, unless you insist?

Quote (MrBob @ Feb. 19 2006,00:10)Quote (Eliyah @ Feb. 17 2006,10:41). . . don't I get to vote in the poll ?It wouldn't make much sense if you were to invite yourself back, no?Also, about the “100%” thing you mentioned in the other topic; the percentage is of the members who actually voted (i.e. 2 opposing votes are 50%-50%), and not the…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 18 2006,15:32)Conducting a straw poll to ascertain whether or not an unfairly-barred member should be invited back is a massively disrespectful and shows no class.Honestly Is 1:18, you seem to join up with anyone who is against us. Your real motive is quite plain to see.

Quote (Cubes @ Feb. 17 2006,18:07)Quote You are the first person, that I know of, to say that “Christ inherited sin”. Either I misunderstand what you mean by that, or you have just disqualified Messiah as the “lamb without spot”, (1 Peter 1:19). Are you simply saying that Messiah was born into a sinful world where he would be taught sin by…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Feb. 16 2006,14:52)How do you define “sin”? Do you think that babies are guilty of this, (i.e. your definition of “sin”)?Romans 14:23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.1 Corinthians 15:17And if Christ has not been raised,…[Read more]

We must remember how Jesus talked to the Pharisees. He was very patient with them in the beginning and he was very hard with them later, as the Pharisees consistently opposed God's messiah. He himself (Jesus) even put people off with his message. Once 5000 people left him in 1 day. What happened here was not harmony with all points of view, but…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 17 2006,03:12)assessed the validity of all the models……The models I looked at did encompassed the possible scenarios.Is 1:18, This is where you have erred. You are reading scripture through models. Try reading it with a hunger for truth and with the leading of God's Spirit. Models will force you to fit scripture inside…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 17 2006,03:12)I have already explained to you a number of times that I did not START with creeds or any statements of faith. Like I said I “objectively assessed the validity of all the models”. How could I do this without letting scripture speak for itself? Or do you not know what objectivity is?The models (trinitarianism,…[Read more]

Is 1:18, You said it yourself, you took predefined teachings and tried them out to see which one was the best contender, i.e., trinitarianism, modalism, and unitarianism and others. So shame on you that you chose 3 or more man made teachings and chose the man made teaching that you thought came closest. As it is written “where is the scholar or…[Read more]

To Is 1:18,So you came to the conclusion that God is triune, even though Jesus never taught it, nor did paul, nor the other apostles and prophets.Even the development of the supposed triune nature of God took a long time. The first creed(s) taught a binity. The triune God didn't appear till hundreds of years later.Yet you single handedly come up…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 08 2006,19:20)Hi t8,A question for you:Does John 10:34 teach that men are divine? Yes or No.I also have some follow up questions depending on your answer.Be well John 10:34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'?Hi Is 1:18,I wouldn't say that this verse is saying that men are divine.…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 08 2006,13:35)I asked you to show me a post I wrote (or a portion thereof) where I have:1. taught “a creed”2. taught “Greek philosophy”, as opposed to something biblical.Hi Is 1:18, You said God is triune. Yet the bible says that he is one, not 3. Your triune understanding doesn't come from the bible. It came from creeds and…[Read more]

Quote (Ramblinrose @ Feb. 14 2006,02:38)SultanA newborn baby cannot make a claim, it cannot even speak nor has it had a chance to sin. This verse is speaking about adults who have a choice to follow YHWH or not. It is not speaking of newly born children.Everybody is born with a choice to sin or not – to follow YHWH or not. Yahshua chose to live…[Read more]

Yeah God's like that.He doesn't fix up the old, he gives us new.A new spirit.A new body, from fleshly to spiritual.

Is 1:18,Quote (Is 1:18 @ Feb. 06 2006,06:42)Show me where I have taught “a creed”?Show me where I have taught “Greek philosophy”, as opposed to something biblical. If you cannot produce the evidence then yes you have been dishonest in misrepresenting me because the intimation of your comments is that i'm constantly doing these things. Anyone…[Read more]