The Roman Empire , which was destroyed, in,  476 AD

Gene, know your history. Rome had two legs. You only see one.

Flat Earth logic
Look.  Light travels in straight lines. So the sun has obviously dropped so low that it was practically at my height level. I wish I was able to walk over that hill and see the the Sun close up.

Hey flatties. Y’all scared?

In six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them. Ex. 20:11

REVELATION

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

How long for that to happen/ Earth days? I don’t think so myself.

So the context was the time of John, the writer of the book as the visions mentioned were to to happen soon and not after 200 or 2000 years.

Most importantly, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. “Where is the promise of His coming?” they will ask. “ Ever since our fathe…[Read more]

for the time is near.

What is the scientific range of ‘near’ for an eternal God where one day is a thousand years?

And understand that the prophecies are many and would span a range too.

The revelation only needed to start in a near time.

Ad 70 would be considered quite near but the message to the seven churches was relevant there and then.

A…[Read more]

Revelation 17 talks about a single Empire where there would be Eight kings

I do not see a single empire in that chapter.

The woman dressed in purple, drinking from a golden cup, and making people drunk on her adulteries seems like a better description for that religion to me.

Please note the difference between the Empire (Kingdom) and the king.

The first thing to consider is that is to look at Daniel whose prophecy described 4 or these kingdoms says:

1. A beast like a lion with eagle’s wings;
2. A beast like a bear, raised up on one side, with three ribs between its teeth;
3. A beast like a leopard with four wings of…

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Oh good. You made a simple post. I’ll reply to that soon. I’m in my car at the moment.

Adam. How about having a conversation about it. Wacking each other with essays doesnt work. Keep it simple. How about making your point to me in one or two paragraphs.

Hi Proclaimer, thanks for reply to my post. But I am sorry to say that you are going out of context of the the text of Revelation. Please read the portion of my post you quoted above again;

Your not making much sense. It says one is yet to come meaning there is one left with an eighth coming from that. And 4 have already fallen. Then you say it’s…[Read more]

I haven’t been following this topic and have skim read through a post here and there. So forgive me if I miss some kind of context that changes what I am reading.

What we are not asked to do is to find the second, futurist,’fulfilment’ of this text—because John did not intend one, and his readers did not need one.

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who is the radiance of his glory and the representation of HIS ESSENCE,

Once again we have two different things here.

HIS & ESSENSE

Essense does not mean His.

“He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature,

So we see two things here.

He and God’s nature.

They are not the same thing.

I’ve been to Misiones. It has an interesting story about the Jesuits and the community they created. It is home to mate, a coffee like drink that many South American footballers drink before matches. One of the world’s wonders is located here. Iguazu Falls. Here are some pics I took about 12 years…[Read more]

You are arguing for nature or form which I am in agreement with.

God is an identity or person though, not a nature.

God’s Sons have or participate in divine nature because they are born of God and therefore are like him.

The Son of God is in fact the very image of the invisible God.

There is a reason why Jesus Christ is the Son of God and not…[Read more]

A person has substance.

A substance doesn’t have a person.

The Trinity assumes the latter simply because there is one divine substance but more than one person who is composed of that. And because God is one, not three, thus God means the one substance part. At least the Trinity spells out that there is a difference between a person and s…[Read more]

Hi Mike, thanks again for your replies to my posts. In fact the Jews believe lot of things like eternal life, immortality of souls, resurrection…so on and so forth. But I am not interested in such news ideas developed during the Intertestamental period.

What if there is truth and it is revealed slowly in the right season. Or do we believe that 1…[Read more]

from a compound of upo – hupo 5259 and isthmi – histemi 2476; a setting under (support), i.e. (figuratively) concretely, essence, or abstractly, assurance (objectively or subjectively):–confidence, confident, person, substance.

A person has substance.

A substance doesn’t have a person.

The Trinity assumes the latter simply because there is on…[Read more]