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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 20 years, 4 months ago

    In answer to the title and description of this discussion:Is the trinity doctrine unsound – YesIs Jesus God – Not God of all. Not Yahweh. He is Yahweh's only begotten.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 20 years, 4 months ago

    Amen bro.It says somewhere that even if their works burn up in judgement fire, they will still be saved, only because of the foundation/rock that they built upon. So it is all in vain if it is not on the foundation.But the foundation is that sure that even if the works burn up, it is solid enough to keep you saved.So let us not ever abondon this…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 20 years, 4 months ago

    I agree Nick. It is a major stumbling block.I would go as far to say that belief in the Trinity doesn't affect your salvation though, if you truly believe that Jesus is the Christ and the son of God.However if one teaches and defends that doctrine, then they can only be a false teacher. Salvation doesn't mean that we must understand all doctrine,…[Read more]

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    I read the same thing in a local newspaper regarding Athanasius's compilation of the current NT books.Of course we do need to be very careful for surely there exist texts that are not inspired of God. But I would suggest however that there certainly are texts that are.In the end I think that if the Word is in our hearts then we will know the word…[Read more]

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    Yes, you need help Sandra.It sounds like you are taking drugs of some kind.Please pray to God for help, he created you in his image. Let him redeem you. He can make you like Yehshua.

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    Amen Cubes.:)

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    I read in a newspaper the other day about other so-called gospels in response to the Da Vinci Code. It mentioned that Athanasius (the one who taught the Trinity) was responsible for the books we see in the canon.This is also listed in Wikipedia.Athanasius: in 367, in Festal Letter 39 listed a 22 book OT and 27-book NT and 7 books not in the canon…[Read more]

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    Could well be so.One thing I have noticed however and haven't heard anyone mention thus far is:In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.Who is to say that God wasn't doing stuff for thousands or millions of years here?2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic love among all in the forum Faith 20 years, 4 months ago

    To david,Quote (david @ April 30 2006,02:17)Vengeance is MINE. I shall repay, says Jehovah.But how does Jehovah pay?He often uses human agencies both good and wicked.Daniel 5:27-28 27 Tekel: You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.28 Peres: Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians.”We can also see the victories in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 04 2006,03:51)Quote i'm no bully's side kick, just one who has cried out to the Father for the truth. He has shown me that and I will hold fast to it and defend it with my life.No offense Woutlaw, It was just the way you always seem to be chiming in after someone elses attempted refutation of trinitarianism (or any aspect of…[Read more]

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    Quote (malcolm ferris @ May 05 2006,22:58)True, trueRev 22 is often used to support the idea that Jesus is co-equal, supposedly the Throne of God and the Lamb is proof of this.I would venture to say that it is a joint throne but not co-equality.True true true.Yes if Jesus were equal to God because he is seated on the Fathers throne, then we are…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ May 29 2006,01:20)Again, same logic applies. Only in your case, as individuals, the numbers stretch much further.To david,We do not claim exclusivity. We are a few people who God has called to help unite the body and remind Christians of the true foundation. We do not say that all Catholics are unsaved for example, nor do we say we…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ May 29 2006,01:20)Again, same logic applies. Only in your case, as individuals, the numbers stretch much further.To david,We do not claim exclusivity. We are a few people who God has called to help unite the body and remind Christians of the true foundation. We do not say that all Catholics are unsaved for example, nor do we say we…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ May 29 2006,01:20)Again, same logic applies. Only in your case, as individuals, the numbers stretch much further.To david,We do not claim exclusivity. We are a few people who God has called to help unite the body and remind Christians of the true foundation. We do not say that all Catholics are unsaved for example, nor do we say we…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ May 29 2006,01:20)One of you is wrong on a number of issues. Or both of you are wrong. But you are both not right. It applies to you just as well t8.To david,Neither myself or Nick is the truth. Jesus is. We as servants can only humble ourselves and realise that we can only know truth as it is revealed. A big part of truth being…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ May 29 2006,01:20)One of you is wrong on a number of issues. Or both of you are wrong. But you are both not right. It applies to you just as well t8.To david,Neither myself or Nick is the truth. Jesus is. We as servants can only humble ourselves and realise that we can only know truth as it is revealed. A big part of truth being…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ May 29 2006,01:20)One of you is wrong on a number of issues. Or both of you are wrong. But you are both not right. It applies to you just as well t8.To david,Neither myself or Nick is the truth. Jesus is. We as servants can only humble ourselves and realise that we can only know truth as it is revealed. A big part of truth being…[Read more]

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    Lets have a look at 2 denominations.Christadelphian + Jehovah Witness.Now let's look at some simple logic that we can deduce when we consider these 2 denominations.Here are some possibilities:One of these organisations is right.None of these organisations are right.Both cannot be right.So in the best case scenario either David or Sammo is…[Read more]

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    Lets have a look at 2 denominations.Christadelphian + Jehovah Witness.Now let's look at some simple logic that we can deduce when we consider these 2 denominations.Here are some possibilities:One of these organisations is right.None of these organisations are right.Both cannot be right.So in the best case scenario either David or Sammo is…[Read more]

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    Lets have a look at 2 denominations.Christadelphian + Jehovah Witness.Now let's look at some simple logic that we can deduce when we consider these 2 denominations.Here are some possibilities:One of these organisations is right.None of these organisations are right.Both cannot be right.So in the best case scenario either David or Sammo is…[Read more]

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