Quote (seminarian @ July 23 2006,17:38)Now here's where you stepped up to the plate Cubes:”What is evident is that the CREATOR (i.e. The GOD and Father of Jesus Christ) who created all things through his Word/Son, also sent his Word/Son and MADE him flesh to come dwell among men. . Point being that the word/son became a creature. And God at no…[Read more]

I disagree kenrch.Just kidding mate.You know once I was talking to this guy in these forums who was arguing black and blue for the Trinity doctrine. I quoted scripture to him, without the quoted verse and book. He disagreed with me. When I showed him what I said was word for word scripture he replied even further as to why he disagreed.It was so…[Read more]

OK David, so we are in agreement in many things that I posted. That is good.What about this:You say that the JWs are seperate to Babylon and the World. So which of these if statements do you agree with, if any?1) The Church/Body of Christ is exclusively the JWs organisation.All other so-called christian organisations are part of Babylon. The JWs,…[Read more]

The ironic thing here is that heiscomingintheclouds doesn't believe in the Trinity doctrine, yet thinks that the KJV is the perfect translation. This translation is so biased toward the Trinity Doctrine that it adds and also takes away verses that doesn't fit that view.heiscomingintheclouds, you must be in conflict over this.

Quote (seminarian @ July 22 2006,16:04)In fact the KJV editors were trinitarians who TOOK OUT part of Matthew 24:36:No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, NOR THE SONbut only the Father.They deliberately REMOVED “nor the Son”, because they couldn't explain it and it didn'tfit with their trinity theology.I didn't know…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ July 22 2006,22:43)See when you tell one lie, you have to keep making up more to support the first one. That's howI knew what E-maniac was going to write even before HE did. You know if someone wants to keepbeing deceived, Satan is all too happy to oblige.Yes it is interesting to me that most, nearly all rebuttals that I have…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ July 22 2006,21:51)well of course Mary did not give birth to God!! He is eternal, just as the Son and Spirit are… at any rate, here is Matt 1:1, and honestly, I can't see any evidence for either position in it:But have a look at the confusion that the Trinity doctrine brings.It has allowed such lies as these:Google…

Quote (epistemaniac @ July 22 2006,20:26)Does our Lord Jesus have a God? As to touching His human nature, yesDoes God the Father have a God?NoSo Jesus is not the Most High God then?

Quote (Cubes @ July 22 2006,08:44)tithe to God via the Priest of Salem, Melchizedek, and this was before the law to titheA friend of mine told me once that this particular tithe was done once and it was war spoils from which he gave a tenth.Is that what that scripture is saying?If yes, then it is not a very good reason in support of christians…[Read more]

The LORD is the only saviour. He sent his son and his son even asked for that cup to be removed if there was another way. But the son said “Not MY will but YOUR will”. Even here we see that Jesus received our punishment because he did what his Father wanted, not necessarily what he wanted to do.So the LORD saved us through his son. The son is the…[Read more]

I read this scripture today and thought I might add it. It is in context to the discussion but perhaps not in context to the latest posts.Notice the word 'might'.Romans 6:3-43 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into…[Read more]

When Israel wanted a king (like the other nations) here is what God said to them:1 Samuel 8:10-2210 Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in…[Read more]

True the fruit is rotten, but there are so many that follow him. Probably most that follow him have never heard of him and do not realise where some of their doctrines come from.

Thanks for your post Mercy.I haven't come across this explanation before.

Yes that was pretty good.

Wow that is a lot to chew over. That Origen guy was an interesting character.

To david.The first century believers were called Christians. There wasn't this division where some were called Christians and another bunch called say Aliens or WJs or Mentalcostals. There were just 2 groups. The second group is the world and some of that second group pretended to be in the first.Now fast forward a couple of millenia and we…[Read more]

To david.The first century believers were called Christians. There wasn't this division where some were called Christians and another bunch called say Aliens or WJs or Mentalcostals. There were just 2 groups. The second group is the world and some of that second group pretended to be in the first.Now fast forward a couple of millenia and we…[Read more]

Quote (Cubes @ July 19 2006,18:35)A friend at work shared with us the neat way of remembering which months have 31 days as opposed to 30. I remember it by the recitation, “30 days have september…” Anyway, some of you may know both but I thought it was quite neat and simple:She makes a fist, each knuckle represents 31 days starting with the…[Read more]

Amen to that.A similar situation happened in the Reformation. People were horrified at the abuse of power the Catholic Church was weilding, not to mention their false teachings and doctrines. This coincided with the invention of the printing press by which bibles were able to be churned out and distributed among the people. They common folk were…[Read more]