kenrch you have accused Nick of things in these forums and I take it that you didn't go through the process that you are saying Nick failed in. According to your own preaching and actions I think you should apologise, but I am not going to force you to as you are trying to with Nick.Anyway, I thought you were going to lay the burden down and let…[Read more]

Yes Kenrch let it rest please. Thanks.So….1) Let others decide for themselves regarding the way Nick exposed the PM.2) Let others also decide for themselves they way Kenrch condemned Nick publicly and didn't go through the procedure that he said Nick should have gone through.So back to the real issue:Where/what post did Nick deceptively edit. I…[Read more]

Sorry Kenrch but he didn't break the commands of Jesus. A person should apologise when he sins and knows that he has sinned.Where does Jesus say you cannot expose a PM?It doesn't.Your interpretation regarding the lack of witnesses (that you broke yourself) should be subject to the church. So from what I can see, only H agrees with you, but that…[Read more]

I still await the evidence of Nicks sin. I never said it didn't exist, I just want to see the evidence. All that other stuff about mis-managing something to me is nothing but a distraction.

kenrch, you accuse Nick for not having witnesses even though the dialogues are witness. The PM was not the first time Nick was accused was it. If that is not good enough for you, then go somewhere else where the standard reaches your expectations. It obviously doesn't here and no one is telling you that you should stay in a place that doesn't…[Read more]

OK you have drawn your conclusion and it is here for all to read. So can we let it rest now?There is nothing more to say. I disagree with your behaviour toward Nick and I disagree with your reasoning for condemning him. I don't think any good is going to come of this by continuing to argue. It's not a good witness to continue in this manner…[Read more]

To kenrch.Personally speaking I think that you and H are not here to do good, but to cause division. I disagree with your reasoning and condemnation of another member with no proof.I will only judge when proof is given of a sin.Mishandling is not a sin, and I do not even think it was mishandled.I think that you have it in for Nick and took this…[Read more]

I don't consider it a sin, but you inevitiably do.So you should adhere to your own rules.That is the sin. Doing that which you consider as sin.Your latest accusation is that Nick didn't rebuke H by himself, (even though you have no proof that he didn't). You then say that there should have been witnesses, even though I consider the posts to be…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 23 2006,11:56)Quote (Mercy @ Sep. 22 2006,16:54)Kenrch,The thing is T8 is not the only one who sees this as being unprofitable. Without any evidence we can't do anything about it.I have posted several scriptures myself that I think really strike at this matter with force. Why are we even having this discussion if H can't…[Read more]

Remember that those who belong to God are brothers and if we slander a brother, we are really saying it to the Lord.I refuse to be part of the slander and I seek real proof that the slander is not slander. If there is no proof, it is slander. If there is proof then Nick should apologise.Where is the proof?Until the proof is set forth, I cannot…[Read more]

To kenrch.Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 23 2006,10:30)I am not judging Nick SCRIPTURE is judging Nick! Tell me t8 why do you believe Nick is right or even it was alright what Nick did?I am not saying Nick is right. I am asking for the proof that he deceptively changed post(s) and that he is not saved as H says.How can I say that Nick is wrong when there…[Read more]

To kenrch.Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 23 2006,10:30)1) Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault “BETWEEN THEE AND HIM ALONE”: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.This is a command of our Lord! This should have been between Nick and H alone. Did Nick follow this command?2) Mat 18:16 But…[Read more]

Anyone who tries to replace Christ is antichrist.Jesus was and is the head of the church.The Pope is not the head of the church, he is the head of the Roman Catholics.As scripture states many times, it is better to be led by God, not man.

Quote (Robyn † @ Sep. 22 2006,19:22)Quote (david @ Sep. 20 2006,05:05)What do you think Robyn?I think you over think the simplicity of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.Put a mirror in front of your statement. The gospel is quite simple and is spelled out in scripture.But the Roman Catholics and other denominations have complicated the simplicity of Chr…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 22 2006,20:03)Interesting. But hasn't God subjected all things under Jesus feet? Don't many scriptures say that:HEBREWS 2:5-9“For it is not to angels that he has subjected the inhabited earth to come, about which we are speaking. But a certain witness has given proof somewhere, saying: “What is man that you keep him in min…[Read more]

To david.Quote (david @ Sep. 22 2006,20:03)Very interesting!The order is of course correct. This Michael, if he is the third highest in the universe…wow. What will the holy spirit think of this? (That was a joke for the trinitarians.) But seriously, Michael, is someone of great import. He's huge. God, Jesus, Michael, etc. Wow. You'd think…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 22 2006,19:59)2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; “if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;” (GNB) who is gentle as you correct your opponents, for it may be that God will give them the opportunity to repent and come to know the truth. 2Ti 2:26 And that they…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 22 2006,11:00)Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between “THEE AND HIM” ALONE: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee ONE OR TWO MORE, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be…[Read more]

Quote (Mercy @ Sep. 22 2006,12:01)God > Jesus > A hierarchey of Angels with stations and positions in an almost militaristic fashion. Michael is like one of the Generals. Jesus is the King.That is what I think too.

If Jesus is the head of the angels, and Michael is the archangel, then that works if Jesus is the head of Michael. Revelation 12:7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.Matthew 13:41The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom…[Read more]