Quote (kenrch @ Oct. 31 2006,01:05)How was Jesus begotten and not created like the other SPIRIT creatures. Was Jesus born in heaven? Scripture seems to say Jesus was created while in heaven and Begotten in flesh. Isn't that when Jesus became the first born again creature and latter first born from the dead?Jesus as the Word came directly from…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 30 2006,02:14)Quote Neither myself or Nick is the truth. Jesus is.Ok, t8, this is all I've read so far, but are you saying we'd be better off reading the Bible than discussing it with you?Of course neither of you is the truth. But do you represent the truth?Quote We as servants can only humble ourselves and realise that we can…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 30 2006,02:14)Quote Neither myself or Nick is the truth. Jesus is.Ok, t8, this is all I've read so far, but are you saying we'd be better off reading the Bible than discussing it with you?Of course neither of you is the truth. But do you represent the truth?Quote We as servants can only humble ourselves and realise that we can…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 30 2006,02:14)Quote Neither myself or Nick is the truth. Jesus is.Ok, t8, this is all I've read so far, but are you saying we'd be better off reading the Bible than discussing it with you?Of course neither of you is the truth. But do you represent the truth?Quote We as servants can only humble ourselves and realise that we can…[Read more]

Yes to say that Jesus is God (himself) you are denying that Jesus is the “image of that God”. You cannot be the source and image. Surely we are MADE in the image of God, and yet we are not the Almighty either.The Father is the source of all good. Jesus is the image. We are MADE in the image.That is what scripture teaches. Plain and simple.The head…[Read more]

Amen Sultan.Christ was begotten. He came from God. He wasn't created in that sense. His body was created, but he wasn't.

Quote (david @ Oct. 25 2006,16:48)Hi Mercy. Where have you been?T8 has repeatedly shown a hatred toward organization and specifically organizations that he considers to be manmade.I was once again explaining to t8 that if he lived in the first century and had his attitude, he'd have problems. Organization in itself isn't bad. And yes, back then…[Read more]

Hi david.Quote (david @ Oct. 25 2006,20:55)Hi t8, you write:Quote The more useful organisations in my opinion are organisations that distribute bibles and fund missionaries.Quote I think you will find that most or at least a big percentage of the money and resources are used in administration and buildings.Bibles are made in buildings. Coming…[Read more]

Quote (Casey S Smith 29 @ Oct. 25 2006,11:34)T8: I have no doubt you have the Spirit of God. I actually found this site and joined from one of your posts from '02. I agree with most of what you say. Yet, I don't believe denominations are all bad or as bad as some give them the bad rap. God has so designed organizations to help edify the body. Does…[Read more]

Yeah it was pretty rough last night, although our new place doesn't seem to shake as much as the last one. I think it is less windy here. I heard that the ferry took 9 hours to cross from the South Island. It had to battle a 9 metre swell and docked in a sound for shelter.http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/488120/868945Today is beautiful however and…[Read more]

It's an El Nino year, so I guess that you will get drought conditions in Marlborough this year. Is that what you are expecting Nick?

I have heard about the drought in Australia at the moment. Could be a bad year for fire?You are welcome to have some of our rain. We have plenty here at the moment.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 25 2006,04:39)Quote (Oxy @ Oct. 24 2006,07:49)I have had quite a number of JW's knocking on my door over the years. Whenever I've had the time I discuss with them the things of God. What saddens me is that I have never yet met a JW that has had a born again experience. When I ask them for their testimony they have no…[Read more]

In my experience I see more Mormons than JWs going about preaching their doctrine. But the Mormons probably stand out more as they wear suits and have badges. They like to ask where are your apostles and prophets, when they find out that you are a christian. But my usual answer is that my life is built on top of the foundation that the apostles,…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Oct. 25 2006,03:01)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 24 2006,07:43)Hi Oxy, Your views do not match any others I have heard here so what is this unity you claim? Your doctrines are unique to you and thus you are the only one right or???It seems you haven't been around much Nick, if you haven't heard the things I am saying before.My “doctrine”…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 24 2006,05:16)Yes T8, that is a HUGE CONTRADICTION. But here's where things get bizarre in the extreme. Nick believes that they are being destroyed, but forever. He believes they are apparently never actually in fact destroyed, but forever in the process of being destroyed. Hence a paradox. If something is forever being…[Read more]

Is this video a fake?

Is repentance a prerequisite for forgiveness?Surely it is for God.Is it the same for us?What about this verse? It seems to say that repentance must be present.Luke 17:3-53 So watch yourselves. “If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. 4 If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and…[Read more]

Yes but isn't that the point. That the body and soul can be destroyed.If so, that contradicts the eternal burning in flames doctrine because to suffer in a flame forever is not destruction, but eternal punishment for the living.I too cannot believe that God would do such a thing. I believe it for 2 main reasons.1) Scripture doesn't teach the…[Read more]

Yeah the wind goes crazy just after the equinox. It gets to hurricane force even though we don't get hurricanes. Mid Summer and Autumn are usually still, but sometimes the wind keeps on blowing. They say that Chicago is the windiest city in the world, and it actually gets more windy days that us. But the strength of the wind is much stronger here…[Read more]