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Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 14 2007,01:20)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 13 2007,06:07)Hi Is 1.18. Jesus is the unique monogenes Son, solely derived from God“solely derived from God”, presumably 'in the beginning'…..Where is this written?Quote as the image of God Himself in the beginning. No other being can make this claim as all other were created by God…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Justin Martyr in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Yes very interesting.I remain open and teachable.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
To Is 1:18.Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 13 2007,19:14)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 13 2007,00:10)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 13 2007,19:02)Hi Is 1.18, If God really died then God could not be raised.Who would want to see God die more than his enemy.Yet some Christians promote a doctrine that says that God died.Pretty sad and unbelievable, but yet it happens to this…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 13 2007,18:59)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 12 2007,23:48)John 20:30-31.30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. “I concur…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 13 2007,19:02)Hi Is 1.18, If God really died then God could not be raised.Who would want to see God die more than his enemy.Yet some Christians promote a doctrine that says that God died.Pretty sad and unbelievable, but yet it happens to this day.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 13 2007,18:59)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 12 2007,23:48)John 20:30-31.30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. “I concur…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Morning Star @ Jan. 13 2007,18:53)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 12 2007,23:40)Hmmmm….is it impossible for YHWH to take on flesh, live amongst His creation and suffer the first death?Is this something that YHWH is incapable of doing IYO?Yes it is impossible:Not because of limiting the “power” of Godbut, because it goes against his “holy” naturethe…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Irenaeus in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
No.I am a student who reads what others say. I do not agree with everything I read, but it is encouraging when people come to the same conclusions.Scripture is still the mark.If it contradicts scripture, then it is not of God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 13 2007,18:20)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 12 2007,22:29)You misuse this verse to back up your doctrine.Scripture doesn't contradict.There is one God the Father as it is written.The Word was logos is also written.It is not saying that Jesus is God himself.Even Trinitarian scholars admit as much.Not true. The trinitarian scholars fall…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Irenaeus in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Irenaeus taught that the Father is the only God and the only creator who commanded all into existence. He claims that this is what Christ taught and that we should distinguish those who are termed gods, from Him who is truly God.But if the Word of the Father who descended is the same also that ascended, he, namely, the only-begotten Son of the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Justin Martyr in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
I haven't read all that Justin taught. But I think his following words seem good. It appears that he taught that the Son came forth from God, that the son was begotten from the unbegotten God who is the Father. He said that Jesus is the true son of God and holds second place after God himself. But his teaching on the Spirit is worth noting. I am…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son? in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote (david @ Dec. 28 2006,22:54)Imagine that Jehovah is King of eternity. King in every right. King of all.And imagine that he sets up a king to be head of his kingdom. That king which Jehovah has set in place is also a king, without question, having all the power and authority bestowed upon him by the very king of eternity.Of course, there…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Question to the Trinitarians in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Good post Morning Star.I respect your honesty.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
To WorshippingJesus.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 13 2007,16:53)t8No one is saying he is the Father.But you left something out.THE WORD WAS/IS GOD?You dont have to believe it either, you do have free will. But dont set on a high horse and say that you preach THE TRUTH, and that every one else is pigs, when there is plenty of scriptures that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
All that Jesus has came from God.Jesus is not God in that he is the source.The source is the Father. Jesus is the image.It goes without saying that a Father is the source of the son. Some argue that the son is in fact not OF God but is ACTUALLY God.But such an error is exposed in scripture. John 16:27 (English-NIV)No, the Father himself loves you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
God is one.There is one God the FatherGod has a son.The son is the Christ of God.Jesus is the Christ.Christ is the Word who became fleshJesus Christ is the Word of God.Jesus Christ is the TruthJesus Christ is the LifeJesus Christ is wisdom from God.Jesus Christ is the power of God.But he isn't God himself.Rather he is the image of God, the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Question to the Trinitarians in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
The Roman Catholic Church is a fraud of the real Catholic (Universal) Church.Her doctrines are adhered to by most denominations. The Trinity Doctrine is the Roman Catholic faith. I am not making this up. They admit as such.Come out of her MY PEOPLE.Who has ears to hear?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Question to the Trinitarians in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Yes that is pretty much it.Everybody was wrong until Constantine came along. Even Jesus and Paul were wrong.But Constantine made it all right in the end. He promoted the Trinity Doctrine and made that the foundation and got political backing.So long as we follow after Constantine, we will not die in our sins. So long as we believe that God is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
He does that david because he is brainwashed and he wants to brainwash others.Brainwashing is usually accomplished by repeating the same thing over and over again until it is drummed into the victim.Fortunately he will only be able to deceive those who are not of the truth anyway.The other thing that I advise is to not spend to much time on him. I…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Jesus Christ is God in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 12 2007,01:50)t8My point is if you are a defender of the truth, then you would defend against all false doctrine here, but you single out trinitarians because all the others teaching false doctrines are also anti-trinitarian.Your site though so do as you please.To WorshippingJesus..I do not single out Trinitarians. I…[Read more]
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