Looks like you won on account of me not turning up.I cannot reply in one day and have just noticed the discussion as you have just PMed me about it now.But if you win by default it doesn't do any favours for the truth of course, but your pride might be interested in a point.Do you want to take the point, or will you give a reasonable amount of…[Read more]

I never said I was unwilling.At that time it was a lot to think about just how the debate would play out. Now that the first one has taken place, I am in a better space to think about the structure of the forums.So I take it that Isaiah is also in favour of this.

I haven't seen a reasonable argument for the Trinity.When the facts are known, that argument doesn't stack up.I use to believe that doctrine but after a time I knew deep down in my heart something wasn't right with it. From that time God has shown me scripture after scripture that pulls that doctrine apart.Even the scriptures that Trinitarians use…[Read more]

Quote (Phoenix @ Mar. 29 2007,17:47)Hi Not3in1Either you made perfect sense to me there or our minds are thinking alike. And I would like to say the same to Tim as well.However, though, the scripture John 1:1 throws this concept out of proportion. I must read some more into this.But first I must mention. Last night I explained to the elders of SDA…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 29 2007,23:32)So, no – I do not have two spirits in me.Romans 8:16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.Aside from God's Spirit that dwells in his children, do we not have our own spirit?What do others think?

This is the only thread.It seems interesting to me that those who fear deception cannot be acting in faith, rather fear.It also seems fitting that most who claim to be cult busters actually do not realise that they are also in a cult.Often you hear of or read things from people who expose cults and often hold up the Trinity doctrine as the…[Read more]

Quote (Phoenix @ Feb. 23 2007,03:26)Oh Hi Nick….I still think that the explanation you and T8 gave me gives me the impression that He is the UniverseOr have I limited him by thinking thatHugsPhoenixThe universe to God is like my shirt to me.My shirt isn't me, so I don't think the universe is God.I would assume that God transcends all physical…[Read more]

I think it is a great idea.I could set it up and move the first debate over.Any other thoughts for or against?

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 28 2007,01:58)1 Cor 3:16, 17″Don't you know that you yourselvs are God's temple and that God's spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.Yes 1 Cor 3:16, 17 is a beautiful and meaningful text.John 5:26For as the Father has life in himself,…[Read more]

Does God have a spirit?Does Christ have a spirit?Do we have a spirit?The answer is yes all 3 of the above have a spirit or are spiritSo how then can God and Christ be one and one with us and we with each other.By our spirits of course.Romans 8:16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.It is by our spirit that we can…[Read more]

John 17:24″Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.If Jesus didn't preexist then God loved the idea of Christ.If Jesus preexisted, then God loved Christ before the creation of the world.

It isn't pathetic.It is the only way that you can reconcile your doctrine (that God is 3 persons and one substance) while praying to one God. Think about it. I am saying the obvious.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2007,20:33)In answer to your question I will clarify the scriptures above as follows…If I use the word “God” in my prayer, I am refering to One God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.Yay, the answer was in there.So as I said earlier, you pray to God using singular language because you are praying to the substance…[Read more]

To WorshippingJesus.So you admit then that God created all things THROUGH the son.Good. So how does that prove that he is God, because you even acknowledged the following yourself?GOD CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH HIS SON.The argument that this makes him God is ridiculous.E.g., Jesus builds his Church we know that from scripture. If Jesus uses me to…[Read more]

To WorshippingJesus.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2007,17:13)t8No faulty reasoning.Read the scriptures, there is Only one True God.Great you admit as such.Now combine that with the fact that this one true God sent his son.Can you see that? Can you at least throw away your pride and admit that?Of course we both know that there is one true God,…[Read more]

Hi WorhippingJesus.Here is the question that came from my post.I repeat that I am not ridiculing your prayer life, but I admit to ridiculing the Trinity doctrine.Q: If you fellowship with 3 members of the Trinity, why is it that you do not use plural language when praying to THEM.I couldn't find the answer to that question, but you say you have…[Read more]

To Cult Buster.Quote (Cult Buster @ Mar. 27 2007,01:55)t8Quote Yes we can worship God in spirit and truth.We don't need to sign up to a denomination.Just curious t8. Where do you assemble for worship?Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see…[Read more]

I think you have a good attitude TimothyVI.

VI. THE DOCTRINE AS INTERPRETED IN LATIN THEOLOGYThe transition to the Latin theology of the Trinity was the work of St. Augustine. Western theologians have never departed from the main lines which he laid down, although in the Golden Age of Scholasticism his system was developed, its details completed, and its terminology perfected. It received…[Read more]

This article is divided as follows: I. Dogma of the Trinity; II. Proof of the Doctrine from Scripture; III. Proof of the Doctrine from Tradition; IV. The Trinity as a Mystery; V. The Doctrine as Interpreted in Greek Theology; VI. The Doctrine as Interpreted in Latin Theology. I. THE DOGMA OF THE TRINITYThe Trinity is the term…[Read more]