Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2007,12:37)Quote (t8 @ April 10 2007,17:22)Fully God, Fully Man.HmmmmmThat makes him 100% of either, i.e., a 200% being. But God is not a man and we know that the Father is greater than the son.So if Jesus is God and Man and the Father is God only, then Christ is in one sense greater than his Father. Of course…[Read more]

Quote (Debra @ Feb. 02 2007,15:29)Hi NickThere are still fires burning, but they seem to be under control, although, a new fire started up around Shepparton, a few days ago, sparked by a campfire, you'd think campers would be more aware, wouldn't you? Anyway, in our neck of the woods, we are very much on alert, we have a few 38% days ahead, and it…[Read more]

I suppose david, that had Jesus said he was God, and the Jews that wanted him dead used this as evidence, then it would have been a slam-dunk case for the death sentence and where is the sport in that? So they took the more challenging path and said that he claimed to be the son of God instead. Seriously though that must be the conclusion for…[Read more]

Hi Cult Buster.Quote (Cult Buster @ April 11 2007,14:16)t8Quote Quote (Not3in1 @ April 11 2007,09:50)Nick and t8 – I do not agree with you brothers, I'm sorry. In your view, Mary was just the body that produced something that was already existing. This does not follow the conception and birth story. This is not what is written. Furthermore, it…[Read more]

Fully God, Fully Man.HmmmmmThat makes him 100% of either, i.e., a 200% being. But God is not a man and we know that the Father is greater than the son.So if Jesus is God and Man and the Father is God only, then Christ is in one sense greater than his Father. Of course scripture doesn't teach this and therefore such conclusions are in the realm of…[Read more]

Yes it seems that it is the ultimate judgement and the punishment much greater than those who despised Moses' law, for they went to the grave. Yes, The Lake of Fire is a greater judgment than the grave because it is the ultimate judgement.There are no judgments after this one and it is a necessary part of the new creation that the old is…[Read more]

Hebrews 10:2626 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.So the enemies of God are consumed in the Lake of Fire.Amen.

Hebrews 10:5-75 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; 6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. 7 Then I said, 'Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, O God.' Christ came into the…[Read more]

Tim2, if God created all things through Christ, then surely he can redeem all things through him too.Of course Christ can pay the penalty for the sins of man. Christ is greater than all humanity and sin, as the son of God.Why do we have to conclude that only God himself could die. That assumption is not written anywhere and yet it is a popular…[Read more]

Yes I wrote it.I look forward to your comments.

Thanks.

Quote (Tim2 @ April 11 2007,00:02)Hi all,I hope everyone had a good weekend. I hear most people on this thread are from New Zealand. I'm from the USA. I hope you don't mind an American sharing his ideas with you. I know I often get heated and share some angry feelings instead of ideas, so forgive me for doing that. I hope I can calmly discuss…[Read more]

There are plenty of verses that you need to explain away before teaching that Jesus never existed in any form until he was born through Mary.Here is a list of such scriptures:https://www.heavennet.net/answers/answer31.htmA good place to discuss this in the following discussion:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….=1;t=65Or you could start one up…[Read more]

Not3in1, your speculation means nothing if it contradicts scriptures that clearly say that he existed before partaking the flesh.Here is a list of scriptures that you have to edit or delete in order to teach that he didn't exist and have glory before he came to earth as a man.https://www.heavennet.net/answers/answer31.htmAs you will see there are…[Read more]

Amen.

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 11 2007,09:50)Nick and t8 – I do not agree with you brothers, I'm sorry. In your view, Mary was just the body that produced something that was already existing. This does not follow the conception and birth story. This is not what is written. Furthermore, it makes a mockery out of family, and how we produce after our own…[Read more]

Correct.If God made everything through him, then it stands to reason that he redeemed everything through him too.Although not all choose to be redeemed.

Quote (Cult Buster @ Mar. 15 2007,18:34)JESUS IS JEHOVAH AND EQUAL WITH GODHi CultB.This statement without you realising it CB, is saying that Jehovah isn't God. I disagree with this statement of course.To be equal to something is an admission that you are not that thing, but like it.If Jesus is Jehovah, and Jehovah is equal to God, then according…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ April 10 2007,13:25)DavidQuote Quote (Cult Buster @ April 09 2007,10:49)t8. Do you believe what the following scripture is saying?“For admission has been secretly gained by some who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly persons who pervert the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and…[Read more]