Quote (Not3in1 @ April 12 2007,12:08)I'm not sure if I am getting your point.Hi Not3in1.The point is that the Word was WITH God in the BEGINNING.And he is called the Word of God now.John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.Revelation 19:13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the…[Read more]

Oh apologies. You don't hold to the Trinity doctrine.Sorry.

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 12 2007,12:08)True. I agree. A Father will pass on to his child certain attributes that he possesses. It doesn't mean he gives up those attributes in himself. In other words, when you have a son t8, you are sharing all of who and what you are……your son is part of YOU.So you agree then that a son is not you.Therefore…[Read more]

Hi Tim2.Quote (Tim2 @ April 12 2007,11:51)Hi Not3in1,I believe they all do indwell each other. This follows from the logic that God is not divided. Since God is each of them, His substance is fully shared equally among them without division. But in any event, I think it's safe to infer, that since the Father and the Son mutually indwell each…[Read more]

To WorhsippingJesus.Quote (Tim2 @ April 12 2007,10:55)Hi t8,John 10:38 shows that the Father and the Son mutually indwell each other. It doesn't explicitly say this for the Spirit, so go ahead and celebrate, but it's a reasonable inference that Christians have made for 2000 years.TimOK I am celebrating and I invite you to celebrate too.It also…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 12 2007,11:34)OK. My theory is not a popular one here on John 1:1, but as I can see Nick and Tim2 are at a stand-off, I'll interject my little thoughts.How can the Word stop being God (because he WAS God in the beginning)? Well, given the fact that I believe Jesus was born, and in being born (for the first and only time, I…[Read more]

Apologies david. Of course Canadians do not come from America or the Americas do they.

Quote (Tim2 @ April 12 2007,11:04)t8, do you believe that the so-called gods have the same nature as the Father? Does anyone else have the same nature as the Father? I know Scripture applies the word god to other beings, but it is always careful to distinguish them as idols, angels, judges. In general, God means YHWH. And YWHW is emphatic that…[Read more]

Hi Tim2.Paul taught clearly that there is one God, the Father, and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. You teach that there is one God the Father, Son, and Spirit, and one Lord Father, Lord Jesus, and Lord Spirit.There is a big difference in what you and Paul teach.Yes, Jesus is a divine being who emptied himself of his former glory and took on human…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 12 2007,10:48)t8,I agree that the Father is the source of the Son. This is the only eternal difference between their persons.Scripture does not say that He is like God. It says He is God.TimTo Tim2.You admit then that you have no understanding of the word “Image”.Well I can assure you that “Image” doesn't mean “Source”.God is…[Read more]

Tim2, men wouldn't believe in the Trinity doctrine if they understood the difference between nature and identity.In identity, the Most High God is exclusively the Father.In nature and authority there are many gods.You make the classic mistake of taking any mention of the word “God” and think it is the Most High. But both 'theos' and 'elohim' are…[Read more]

So you willingly ignore these scriptures, Tim2:John 8:42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.John 16:27No, the Father himself loves you because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God.John 16:30Now we can see that you know…[Read more]

To Tim2.Quote (Tim2 @ April 12 2007,02:23)Quote (david @ April 10 2007,19:48)I ask this again because I think it belongs here and because no one has really attempted to answer it to any significant extent:JOHN 19:7“The Jews answered him: “We have a law, and according to the law he ought to die, because he made himself God’s son.””If these peo…[Read more]

Tim2.Paul teaches that for us there is one God, the Father and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ.Trinitarians teach that there is one God the Father, Son, and Spirit.You could at least be honest with yourself and see that what you believe and what Paul taught is different.

Quote (Tim2 @ April 12 2007,04:43)Nick,Are you a gnostic? You apparently believe that Jesus is just a vessel for God.TimTim.Jesus is the image of God, the firstborn.An image is not the source but an image.That is why he is like God.God > Christ > ManScripture teaches the above as the correct order.NotTrinity > Man. If you are honest Tim, you will…[Read more]

To Tim2.Quote (Tim2 @ April 12 2007,04:32)Hi Nick,All the persons of the trinity mutually indwell each other.TimProve it. Show me a scripture that says this.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 11 2007,12:37)Quote (t8 @ April 10 2007,17:22)Fully God, Fully Man.HmmmmmThat makes him 100% of either, i.e., a 200% being. But God is not a man and we know that the Father is greater than the son.So if Jesus is God and Man and the Father is God only, then Christ is in one sense greater than his Father. Of course…[Read more]

Quote (Debra @ Feb. 02 2007,15:29)Hi NickThere are still fires burning, but they seem to be under control, although, a new fire started up around Shepparton, a few days ago, sparked by a campfire, you'd think campers would be more aware, wouldn't you? Anyway, in our neck of the woods, we are very much on alert, we have a few 38% days ahead, and it…[Read more]

I suppose david, that had Jesus said he was God, and the Jews that wanted him dead used this as evidence, then it would have been a slam-dunk case for the death sentence and where is the sport in that? So they took the more challenging path and said that he claimed to be the son of God instead. Seriously though that must be the conclusion for…[Read more]

Hi Cult Buster.Quote (Cult Buster @ April 11 2007,14:16)t8Quote Quote (Not3in1 @ April 11 2007,09:50)Nick and t8 – I do not agree with you brothers, I'm sorry. In your view, Mary was just the body that produced something that was already existing. This does not follow the conception and birth story. This is not what is written. Furthermore, it…[Read more]