First off Jesus isn't God so he doesn't breach the Duet verse and secondly Jesus (the son) does these only because God shows him, but not from his own initiative. So it is actually God doing it through his son. Likewise we (should) do what Christ does.And when God works through us, we too cannot take the credit and if God works through the Church,…[Read more]

Amen Cubes.Good stuff. Your wisdom is appreciated.Hope all is good.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 18 2007,23:01)If you are so sure your writtings are inspired then why would you write this in yoiur rebuttal…To WorshippingJesus.I spoke the truth when I said that.Given more time I know that God could have shown me. It wouldn't have been hard, I just needed to read it with more time. God speaks to us when we read…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 18 2007,22:40)Quote (t8 @ April 17 2007,19:13)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 17 2007,22:13)Also I do have an answer for your twisted response to Is 1:18s proof text.But I am still praying about my answer.WorshippingJesus, you should be careful.If God inspired my writing then guess who you are calling twisted?You…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ April 22 2007,19:35)t8, I also only repeat the following.Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ April 17 2007,19:20)Hi t8. We could argue over Bible translations or play word games, but the scripture tells us that only God was involved in creation.Hi CultB.So like I said, you do not believe that God made all things THROUGH Christ. Is that correct?

Quote (Cult Buster @ April 21 2007,17:02)In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Yhovah)OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.Come on CultB.If a title like “The LORD our righteousness” actually makes one YHWH, then why not take it to it's logical conclusion and say that these names…[Read more]

To WorshippingJesus .Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 20 2007,12:27)Paul also made a distintion between the Father and the Son here…Correct.And the same distinction with God and the son isn't it? We know that the Father is God, so there is no contradiction and perfect harmony in the scriptures.So are you now admitting that Paul made a distinction…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ April 20 2007,10:19)A very good point Isaiha!Says CultB who completely ignores the fact that Paul made a clear distinction between God and his son.Hello!I'll say it again, you CultB and also Is 1:18 and WorshippingJesus are conveniently ignoring the fact that 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 speaks of God and his son as two different…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 20 2007,06:15)You say that only the Father is the creator who created all things through him right?Since as CB has so beautifully pointed out the scriptures say that only God created all things by himself, then that means that if Yeshua had no part in the creation but that the Father just did everything through him…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 20 2007,00:19)t8,You're “Heaven”? Don't you think that's a little, I don't know, blasphemous, calling yourself Heaven, and having a glistening Lion for an icon? It's freaking me out. You might scare people away with that. I'd tone it down if I were you. Plus, you know, you don't want to bring judgment on yourself for…[Read more]

To WorshippingJesus.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 17 2007,21:58)See to them when the scripures seem to indicate that it is the Word/God, YHWH, Yeshua that did something proving he is God, then the only thing they can resort to is Yeshua is just a puppet on a string or an empty vessel or a funnel “through” which the Father poured his power, becaus…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 19 2007,14:07)t8 was making all those excuses about the lack of time he had in doing his research, when less than a week beforehand I told him he could “take all the time he needed” to submit his rebuttal:Maybe you didn't read WorshippingJesus post(s) but he was throwing accusations at me regarding this time issue. I was…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 19 2007,07:06)Only those who confess that Jesus is YHWH are members of His body.Oh yeah right!Isn't it mentioned somewhere in the book of fables? Fable 1:1 or something?

I'm concerned that Tim2 doesn't have an avatar.How are we suppose to judge a book by it's cover if it doesn't have one?

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 19 2007,13:55)Quote (Tim2 @ April 18 2007,15:31)I'm concerned that there is a “super administrator” named “Heaven” with a blazing gold Lion for an icon. Is this some sort of cult?Tim2,Heaven is t8's alter ego. They are one and the same.CheersWhat do you mean cult?We only ask that you tithe, shave your hair, and wear a…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 18 2007,16:04)Paul certainly makes a distinction between the two persons of the Father and SonActually, the distinction is with God and Jesus.That is the part that shows that Paul wasn't a Trinitarian. He obviously uses the word “God”, not in a Trinitarian sense, but to describe the Father exclusively. See hundreds of other…[Read more]

Apart from the listed scripture below, is that term mentioned anywhere? I know it isn't even mentioned in the verse below either but “tormented day and night” could be translated as “eternal torment” on the outset. But are there any scriptures where “eternal torment” is actually mentioned? If no, then what are the scriptures where it is inferred?…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 18 2007,03:07)Thanks, Nick!I just wanted to make sure your belief wasn't that Jesus was “just” the vessel for God as in a incarnation.I understand that Jesus was filled with God at his baptism. And from then on – God worked in and through Jesus to accomplish his good purposes. But Jesus still remained his Son, and his own…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 18 2007,03:37)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 17 2007,04:52)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2007,18:49)Hi E, So there is an economic and ontological trinity?Does the committee have to change hats when they swap from one to another?do you really find your questions to be that amusing or particularly insightful Nick?EI…[Read more]