Quote (Kyle @ May 08 2007,15:03)I find this quite interesting. T8's view of this verse troubles me a bit. I don't see how it's grammatically impossible for it to refer to YHWH as the one being pierced. That seems to me to be the most plain understanding of this scripture. It does seem a bit odd that the one speaking would say “me” and then…[Read more]

I agree. Yes indeed there is one firstborn son (prototype) and there are many sons.As far as divine nature goes: have you not read that we will partake in divine nature?

To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,03:19)Jn 17:3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, *and Jesus Christ*, whom thou hast sent.Jesus never mentioned in his prayer that knowing us would be Eternal life did he?I am not saying this. I am simply pointing out that if the Father and the son are one, that is not…[Read more]

To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,03:19)Yeshua and the Father is in us and we are in “Them”.Ring a bell?Gen 1:26And God said, *Let us* make man *in our image, after our likeness*: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,03:19)t8So let me see if I understand.You think that we share Deity with the Father and the Word/God the Monogenes (Unique) Son of God?So we are all (Monogenes) Sons?To WJ.I say what scripture says. That we can be one with God and with his son. We can be in them and they in us.I also say as scripture says,…[Read more]

Quote 1 Corinthians 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.There are 2 kinds of people here. Us and them. Us believe what is written above wholeheartedly and them believe as CultB believes the…[Read more]

Hi tim2.You cannot turn of a members post that feature doesn't exist.It is also true that any member here can say what they want about any doctrine. But attacking anyone personally is not acceptable.If a doctrine is attacked, then that in itself is not a personal attack. Christ often attacked false doctrine or teaching. He also rebuked those who…[Read more]

God can fulfill your soul with life. This life is better than anything concocted by man. Besides being bad for your health, I see drugs like taking an overdraft. You feel good when you have the money, but you have to pay it back and debt can be a bad feeling especially after you have spent the money. So to get rid of that bad feeling you take a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 07 2007,18:47)Quote (t8 @ April 23 2007,16:20)Quote (Cult Buster @ April 17 2007,19:20)Hi t8. We could argue over Bible translations or play word games, but the scripture tells us that only God was involved in creation.Hi CultB.So like I said, you do not believe that God made all things THROUGH Christ. Is that correct?Hi CultB.So…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ May 07 2007,20:15)t8. Again your words which sounds like you are unsureI say it like this because I am not sure if the translation is completely accurate. If it is, then it appears to be YHWH.I am wisely compensating for this.Imagine if I said it is without any doubt and later found that the translation actually says …I…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ May 07 2007,20:28)t8Quote 1 Corinthians 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.The above says that there is but one God the Father. (There are no commas in the Greek)There is…[Read more]

A good post Cubes.Well thought out and full of honesty and truth.Thanks for your input, it is a blessing.

1 Corinthians 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.There are 2 kinds of people here. Us and them. Us believe what is written above wholeheartedly and them believe as CultB believes the…[Read more]

Not at all. I have hated violence all my life.Why do you ask, were you?What hypocrisy are you talking about?Your not going to start accusing us of being hypocrites now? That would be a serious charge and accusation to make considering what scripture says about hypocrites.How about you slay us with the word of God instead of your accusing tongue. I…[Read more]

To WorshippingJesus.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2007,05:03)t8No my point is not silly. The Oneness that we have with Jesus is not the same oneness that he shares with the Father and you know it.Is that right?Not the same oneness?Explain this:John 17:21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 23 2007,16:20)Quote (Cult Buster @ April 17 2007,19:20)Hi t8. We could argue over Bible translations or play word games, but the scripture tells us that only God was involved in creation.Hi CultB.So like I said, you do not believe that God made all things THROUGH Christ. Is that correct?Hi CultB.So like I said, you do not believe…[Read more]

Q1) Was the “me” that was foretold to be pierced and looked upon by the inhabitant of Jerusalem in Zech 12:10 a refererence to YHWH? If not, please provide lexical evidence to the contrary.I think the ME is YHWH. The one who is to be pierced (HIM) is Yeshua.It says “…They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 25 2007,10:25)I just didnt understand your reaction in defending t8, in light of his response and critical words toward Isaiah.Sounds like a school yard to me.Gangs ganging up and complaining when it happens.Come on WJ. It is not about sticking up for people and ganging up on others. What a joke. It is simply…[Read more]

Fair treatment?These forums are open to anyone so long as they do not abuse other members.You can say what you want about a mans doctrine.Iron sharpens iron.I agree with Nick in a lot of things, but I know that we have our differences too. It isn't a conspiracy. I am open where I differ with anyone including Nick.If I appear biased then it is in…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2007,11:43)t8And you can be One flesh with your wife, so I guess that means that all of humanity is one flesh with your wife!!! Honestly WorshippingJesus shame on you.What a silly thing to say.It is scripture that teaches that we can be one with each other and with the Father and son. It is obvious that it is…[Read more]