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Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ June 12 2007,02:23)Since the one true God exists as a Godhead this means that the three Persons can be addressed as the only true God both individually and collectively. Putting it another way:. The Godhead is the only true God.· Each specific member of the Godhead is the only true God.· Therefore, the members of the Godhead a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 11 2007,18:49)You just admitted that the Spirit is the (what/substance) of God.Therefore you just admitted the Spirit and Jesus is God!For since the “Spirit is what God is”, then the following scriptures confirm that Jesus is God!Look…Heb 1:3The Son is the radiance of God's glory and *the exact representation of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 11 2007,13:39)Quote (t8 @ June 10 2007,15:55)You use the Old Testament to say that the New Testament is incorrect in this matter.No t8, as opposed to you I ascribe equal weighting to both the NT and OT proof texts, and I don't allow a presupposition to override overt biblical realities. Maybe you should try these…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 11 2007,13:39)No t8, as opposed to you I ascribe equal weighting to both the NT and OT proof texts, and I don't allow a presupposition to override overt biblical realities. Maybe you should try these things.OK. Where do I start?Shall I start with accepting a creed/doctrine that was formalized hundreds of years after the last…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Hi Nick.Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 02 2007,17:28)So on this point let me state that I concur with t8, no one has ever seen the Father, this appears to be the only logical conclusion to draw from John’s writings above. But it’s even more scripturally obvious that men have seen YHWH.Unfortunately for him, he said that the invisible God was the Fat…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Isaiah.Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 06 2007,15:33)Is YHWH so impotent that He can't appear in a form that men can see?“Is anything too difficult for the LORD?” (Gen 18:14)Nothing is too difficult for him. The difficulty lies with men.E.g., can God make man God? If not, then is God not all powerful? To say that nothing is too difficult for him is tru…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 06 2007,14:35)T8,Where in the Bible do we read about what Timothy believed here? He didn't actually write anything in the NT, remember??I was referring to what Paul wrote to Timothy. But I guess it is possible that Timothy didn't believe what Paul wrote, but I doubt that.If Paul discipled Timothy I would think that he agreed…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
So to conclude Isaiah's argument.The New Testament says: # No one has ever seen God# No one has seen God at anytime# No one can ever see GodIsaiah says:# No one has ever seen God, except for the ones who have# No one has seen God at anytime, except for the times that they have seen him# No one can ever see God except for the times that they canIn…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ June 09 2007,17:34)I dispute t8’s assertion that YHWH has never been seen. YHWH has indeed been seenIt's not my assertion.It is what Paul, John, and our Lord Jesus taught us.Paul – 1 Timothy 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.John – John 1:18 No man hath s…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Taking a break? in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 19 years, 4 months ago
Thanks Mandy.I find for myself that I need to take regular breaks and come back refreshed. That way I feel I can give my best and not let my emotions rule too much. That said I love it here too, but it can eat up a lot of time and life itself demands our time.There are not many places that I know of at least that really questions all things…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Whore of Babylon in the forum Prophecy 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Tim2 @ April 08 2007,04:28)Hi Nick,God is one, and He exists in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I've already shown you that each of them is God, and that they are one God. God created man in the image of God. In the image of He created him. Male and female He created them. The man and the woman become one…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Main stream Christianity in the forum Prophecy 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (kenrch @ June 07 2007,05:31)NOW if Sunday were a regular weekly worship day then WHY would Paul tell them NOT TO GATHER!Kenrch.Is there a such thing as an official worship day?Should we not be free to worship God where ever and when ever?In God's Kingdom will we be able to stop worhipping him?Everday is a good day to worship God.Can you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Antichrist in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (david @ June 09 2007,10:33)Yes, the man of lawlessness or the “son of perdition” is certainly an antichrist, because he is against Christ.But I consider this man of lawlessness to be a class of people.1 John 2:18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Antichrist in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 09 2007,09:10)Sorry, Tim2. Just a little tit-for-tat coming at 'cha.OK, I'll let it go now. Ha!Lets face it does Tim2 believe that Jesus came in the flesh, or does he believe that God came in the flesh?
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 19 years, 4 months ago
To Not3in1.Quote (Not3in1 @ June 09 2007,14:25)STUDENT!
If you are still around……. I have something I would like to share with you. It's a quote from the Rev. Jared Sparks, who was a Victorian era Unitarian (that sounds funny, huh?). “Those persons who have bound themselves to a written system of faith, in the shape of a creed or…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Jehovah's witnesses in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 4 months ago
I agree that JWs need to be exposed for the culture that they are, but I just wonder about some of those who like to point the finger at them too. I think that the errors there are no worse than what you find with those who believe that salvation is exclusive to Trinitarians.It seems to me that often we see one cell in the prison block saying that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Fools are not born, they are made.Men make themselves into fools when they ignore reason and truth, in order to pursue their own ideas through selfish ambition.God also uses the simple things to confound them because God's foolishness is greater than their wisdom.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 08 2007,01:09)Quote (Tim2 @ June 07 2007,05:18)Student,You've come to the wrong place. This is not a Christian website. It is a wicked pagan website full of heretics and blasphemers who deny that Jesus is one with the Father. Your best bet is to flee from this website, block it from your computer, and never come back.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Tim2 @ June 08 2007,00:18)Student,You've come to the wrong place. This is not a Christian website. It is a wicked pagan website full of heretics and blasphemers who deny that Jesus is one with the Father. Your best bet is to flee from this website, block it from your computer, and never come back. Instead, talk to the pastor and elders…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ June 05 2007,21:24)t8QuoteNever mind for now that there are Old Testament scriptures that say that men saw God, you have to admit that as it stands now, you disagree strongly with John, Paul, and Timothy.It's time for a Bible study boys!Funny that you should pick that up.CultB it is about one point at a time.Then we move to…[Read more]
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