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Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (OneLadyBand @ July 19 2007,02:32)On another topic:Does anyone else have trouble with the words on the screen keeping up with your typing? I constantly have to go back and make corrections where letters are left out, becaue it just can't seem to keep up. Irritating. : )I haven't noticed. Perhaps you are a much faster typer than me though.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Amen to that Nick.Not amen to CB, but I expect that certain men who come here will continue in their mission to undermine us. However the Pharisees opposition to Jesus Christ didn't stop him from fulfilling his purpose.I have been thinking lately that there will come a time when debating with these guys comes to an end. They opposed us in just…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Do you believe the theory of Evolution to be true? in the forum Creation & Science 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Stu @ July 18 2007,21:13)Hitler practiced mass murder, which he justified with his insane prejudices. Would you call what Hitler did “evolution by natural selection”?Yes.He was exerting his right according to evolution to create a dominant type of man.The same method that Cromagnon, Neanderthals became extinct, he tried to overtake other…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Thanks for the scripture.It spoke to me regarding a vision I received once. But that is another story. Once again, thanks.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Good post Nick. Quite thorough too.When I think of water it is like the physical representation of spirit.Spirit/breath gives life and all physical life needs water.We have rivers on earth and proceeding out from the throne of God is the River of Life. I couldn't imagine this river having physical water and we know that spirit brings life. Think…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Sure.God is in Jesus and Jesus is in God and we are in God and Jesus.God is Spirit and we have spirits.We know that this union is not physical, so it must be spiritual. But I think that many get confused with God being in Jesus and vice versa. They think this somehow makes God and Jesus the same being. But we can be one with them too.Romans…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 18 2007,17:34)I will address this post point by point, but I want clarification on something first.When we read “Spirit of Christ” (or a synonym) in the NT should we understand this to mean Yeshua's personal Spirit?Thanks.Correct. And that is how Jesus is one with God and how we can be one with God and Jesus.Spirit like water…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Hey CultB.Come out of her.The Trinity is a Babylonian doctrine.Come out of the cult.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Is that you CultB?Whatever you do, don't answer “I am”. Think about your answer CultB. Be very careful.Actually I bet I could find in one of your posts somewhere where you said “I am” regarding yourself. If no, I bet you have said “I am” at sometime in your life. By your own wisdom, that makes you God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Is CultB up to his old tricks and pasting the same thing into multiple discussions?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Hi Cult Buster.Sons are called 'elohim' and 'theos' too and yes Jesus is Mighty.That shatters your theory somewhat.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Psalms 82:6 (English-NIV)”I said, `You are “gods” (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.'John 10:34 (English-NIV)34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, `I have said you are gods (theos)' 35 If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apa…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Psalms 82:6 (English-NIV)”I said, `You are “gods” (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.'John 10:34 (English-NIV)34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, `I have said you are gods (theos)' 35 If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apa…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The rapture on July 7, 2007? (777) in the forum Faith 19 years, 2 months ago
OK. That wasn't the date.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
It wasn't just Ignatius who spoke like this, there were also many of the other pre-nicene writers too. These all sing the same tune that Jesus isn't the Most High God and that he was begotten as the son and even begotten as the Word before that. They say things like Jesus is second after God and was the first work of the Father.Clement (ca 85…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did Enoch die? Gen. 5:24 in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 2 months ago
It's an interesting conversation. But I guess I would like to ask if Elijah died.He was taken up in a chariot and he also appeared with Moses in the transfiguration. I think it is written that Moses died however.Then we have the verse that says that all the graves were open when Christ rose and we are also taught that when we are away from the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
To WJ.Quote t81 Cor 11:14For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.When did you accept this other Jesus?This other Jesus is the son of God and the messiah. Which one are you talking…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Jehovah in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 19 years, 2 months ago
Offering a JW to become a Trinitarian?Why?Believing that Jesus is the Christ and son of God is the important truth that we need to grasp. Saying that Jesus is Michael or God is just silly and confuses everything.I think that each side can see the faults of the other. I also think it is vanity to try and coax one from the fry pan to the fire.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ July 12 2007,01:17)Jesus Christ is called “the mighty God” in Isaiah 9:6.JW's have a ready answer for this verse. They explain that Christ is “the mighty god” but not “the almighty.” They say that Christ is the mighty, never the almighty and that Jehovah is the almighty God, never the mighty. However, Jeremiah 32:18 shows that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ July 12 2007,23:32)Hi Nick. Jesus was indeed God. He said so.John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. John 8:57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham…[Read more]
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