Quote (Cult Buster @ July 23 2007,11:18)kejonn. Why did they fall backwards at the words I AM?To CultB.Why did prophets prostrate themselves when they saw an angel? Because they were God?Is not the son greater than all angels?If you think that falling backwards makes someone God, then your qualification of who God is must be faulty.Also have you…[Read more]

Cult Buster.If you have a true heart, then you would seek the truth. But you agenda shows us otherwise. You are promoting the traditions of men and in doing so, you nullify the power of God in your life. You can't have mens traditions and the power of God too.God demonstrates his power where his truth is in order to give testimony of the truth.

Quote (kejonn @ July 23 2007,10:04)CB,Since you are saying we are preaching another Jesus, show us where Paul preaches the Jesus of the Triune God. You must incorporate Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and must only use Paul's teaching.Thanks.We are preaching another Jesus to the one he preaches that is for sure.He preaches a Jesus who is a member of…[Read more]

To Cult Buster.Quote (Cult Buster @ July 23 2007,10:15)Kejonn. This applies to you with your “another Jesus” “another spirit” and “another gospel”2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 23 2007,10:21)Is everyone who does not believe that Yeshua is God a JW? Seems you think so. Again, I'm thinking some JW stoled your girlfriend or something. Your obsession is disturbing.Cultbusters typically have pamplets and books that list all the cults side by side and their creeds and then compares them with the Trinity…[Read more]

Thanks for that info kejonn.I only really brought up Ignatius because WJ said that he was an original disciple of John and that his writings were significant. He then went on to say that Ignatius supported his view. The conversation at this point looked like it was going to swing toward ante-Nicene fathers supporting his view with none supporting…[Read more]

But not the God overall Isaiah.God > Christ > Man 1 Corinthians 11:3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.Ignatius uses 'theos' in different senses. It is not always the God over all and he stipulates that very point.His warning about those who preach that…[Read more]

BTW kejonn the above was a general statement. No directed at you in any way. It was in support of you.I read it again and it looked to me that it could have been misconstrued.

A brief history of timeChapter 1: WorshippingJesus wisdom and conductWJ said that Ignatius was a disciple of John and his writings were significant and then used his writings to support his view.In reality he completely misunderstood Ignatius because Ignatius uses the word “theos” differently to him, and Ignatius said that those who say that Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 20 2007,19:59)Quote (t8 @ July 20 2007,19:51)Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 20 2007,19:02)My kids are 6 yrs, 4 yrs and 5 months, all boys! I'll email you some photos….Are your 3 sons, one being?Funnily enough they are 100% human like me and my wife, they have exactly the same ontology as the being that begat them….You walked right…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 20 2007,19:10)MY THREE SONS! Remember that show? I'm not sure if you are American or Canadian or NZ? But that show was pretty popular when I was growing up.Yeah I vaguely remember that show (in New Zealand).

Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 20 2007,19:02)My kids are 6 yrs, 4 yrs and 5 months, all boys! I'll email you some photos….Are your 3 sons, one being?OK, I am just being funny. I have one son but I think another child would be great. We would like to have one more child. I would like a girl, but another boy would be great too.

Quote (kejonn @ July 19 2007,16:53)Looking through Ignatius' writings, he often refers to Yeshua as “God”. I put it in quotation marks because I wonder of it should be capitalized. But I also not that he calls the Father the Almighty God in some places and true God in others. He never uses Almighty or true God to refer to Yeshua. Yet as you can…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 18 2007,22:26)I'm not sure though how Darwin's theory gives anyone the right to murder others.Evolution doesn't call it murder. It is called survival of the fittest. The end result can be the same in that one sub-species kills another to occupy the same ecosystem that they are competing for. The other culling or extinction…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 19 2007,12:17)I think he is addressing two heresys of his day.1. Unitarians – “that He is not the Son the Creator. Who else is Creator but God t8?Unitarians believe Jesus is not God in any sense and therefore he is not the creator, nor do they believe he pre-existed. They believe that the creation was done by God w…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ July 18 2007,18:35)The reason that his name shall be called, “The mighty God”, is because Jesus is The mighty God And the reason why Sons of God and Angels are called theos and elohim is because they are God?Ummmm. Actually that doesn't work.I think your reasoning is faulty CultB.Have another go.

Good post.

Hi kejonn.Quote It amazing how some people must ignore context to support their doctrines. When you are brainwashed or have bias, then everything is distorted. It is often called delusional. I have met people who are biased toward other races or sexes and their judgements in these matters are indeed unbalanced. It is no different with scripture.

True kejonn.People who focus on cults cannot be focusing on God and his son. It stands to reason. I have met a fair few people like this and the one's I have met, think that demons will latch onto if you go anywhere that demons are. In other words they give the kingdom of darkness too much power.But if we are the light of the world, then what fear…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 18 2007,23:52)No CB, I get my Gospel from here:I do not get my Gospel fromNice one!