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Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
IT IS THE SAME WITH THE SINGLE SON OF GOD GENERATED BY THE FATHER
HE IS THE EXACT REFLECTION OF WHAT THE FATHER IS
ON THE SPIRITUAL AND PHYSICAL PLAN BEFORE ITS INCARNATION.AFTER GIFT INCARNATION, WE CAN SAY WITH PAUL THAT IN CHRIST THE WHOLE FULLNESS OF THE DIVINITY LIVES BODILY.
And once again we see the Trinity Doctrine confusing people. You…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
Anyone who has seen Me… Has seen the Father.
Yes a perfect description for the image of God.
And an image is not the source.
Simple.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
Proclaimer, if you play your game of replacing the words in the scriptures I just posted with your beliefs, they won’t fit.
Wrong. Replace God with the Father and it not only makes sense. It is actually what the verses are saying.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but h…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son who is in the bosom of the Father , He hath revealed Him.
Proof that Jesus is not God right there. God is invisible.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
So if the God in the Bible is not a Trinity because you cannot swap these words without breaking scripture, then the Trinity God is some other God. It is not the God in the Bible.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
In order to believe in the One true God, you must believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are a package deal, a divine interdependency.
My scriptures trump your creed. Do you want to play again.
Jesus said, Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them,
`I am returning…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
Yes, that makes him the image of God.
Think about the Word ‘image’ and ‘of’ for a minute.
If you had a son, then you could day the son of Miia. But nobody would say he was Miia.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
To be the most like God and to have his nature and character doesn’t make you God. It makes you his Son.
When you are like something and even if you are equal to something, to any clear thinking person, you are not that actual thing that you are like.
What it makes you is an image.
God is the source of all, even the Son. The Son is the image of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 11 months ago
Miia, I get it that these vaccines were rushed out the door. But look at the situation. Regardless, I am not forcing you to be vaccinated. I respect that you have your own free will, that your will is sovereign. I am merely arguing about the issue itself. As I said before. Whether we are vaccinated or not, we will all likely get Covid-19 just like…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 11 months ago
And this is how you pray. It is to the Father because the Father is above all.
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against
us; and lead us not into temptation, but…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
Hi Proclaimer.
I do not wish to get into a debate over this topic.
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. These three are one!
Someone here once described a coin as having two different images on either side, but it’s still the one coin. I get that!
And this is exactly why people believe in the Trinity Doctrine.
- They turn God i…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 11 months ago
I agree with you Gene regarding this. The Trinity is so confusing that no one understands it. It causes men to pray to the Father one second, then switch to the Son, and then a request to the Holy Spirit. And as you rightly point out, they cannot place the Father above the Son when it is suppose to be a out the Son bringing us the the Father.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 11 months ago
And why is it when you replace the word ‘God’ in scripture for ‘Trinity’, why does it break the Bible.
For example:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For The Trinity so loved the world that The Trinity gave his one and only Son, that whoever…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Merged topics in the forum Rules, Help Desk & Notices 4 years, 11 months ago
It’s simple for me. I believe scripture and it’s not one or two scriptures either. The Bible consistenly teaches us that the one true God is the Father. And the creeds that came later. They are from man’s own mind.
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
yet for us…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 11 months ago
Proclaimer, yet you are choosing to have faith in something that is untested. You are putting blind faith in man instead of in God. For what reason? So YOU can……. be a part of the system again?
If your houseceas on fire, do you wait till God shows up to save you. Or do you ring the Fire Brigade?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Merged topics in the forum Rules, Help Desk & Notices 4 years, 11 months ago
Nice try but not Destiny church lol. This couple are Apostolic (I had to look that up because I wasn’t sure what they were! They are Apostolic ministers). They were speaking on the Maori news and the way she spoke of the word, “In the beginning was the word and the word was with God, and the word was God, and the word dwelt among man”,
The Word…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 11 months ago
It’s about the Father.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
He is the image of the invisible God. Many things and persons teach us about God. But Christ reveals God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 11 months ago
Flat Earthers with cameras have nothing compared to this guy
Proclaimer replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 11 months ago
Gene, I believe what is written in the NT. You should be honest and say that you do not.
You do not believe the Word became flesh, Jesus Christ came in the flesh, and that the Word of God who became flesh is coming again with the name: The Word of God.
You and Jodi were stumped when I said that the man from Nazareth is Jesus because that is his…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Natural or manufactured? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 11 months ago
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