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Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 24 2007,18:46)You throw out these little formulas of yours insisting that it has to be the way you say and that everyone who dosnt accept your formula is proud, yet you give us no clear scriptures to support your theory. Your formula only speaks of the order of things and not the nature of things. Scriptures…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 24 2007,18:46)Nothing you say here t8 says the Word was born or had a beginning.Actually it is more like that there is nothing to say that the Word was with God for eternity past as Trinitarians assume. Although I am not sure of your stance as your Trinity doctrine is a little different to the official one. You seem…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 24 2007,18:46)I didn’t admit to any such thing! The greeks believed that there were many gods. In fact they believed men were gods. Sound familiar t8? It seems you believe like the Greeks. For you admit that men are gods. Yet, Paul says they are “So called gods, and not gods at all”.Yet Jesus said “You are gods”…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote Could you maybe give one scripture that says Yeshua was (born/begotten/of/from God) before he came in the flesh?Are you saying that he wasn't of God before he came in the flesh?
Proclaimer replied to the topic 2nd beasts in the forum Prophecy 19 years, 1 month ago
I remain open and teachable regarding such.I have also read that America was the opposite. Some early reformers taught that America is the eagle in the following and Israel, the Church. They say that America was the place prepared for those who suffered persecution in Europe.Revelation 12:14The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 24 2007,12:31)Created or uncreated! Is there anything else? How do you see anything else in these passages of scriptures?So you admit to the Greek framework being a model by which you see scripture.Well how about this.God (uncreated)Christ (born/begotten/of/from God)Man (created through Christ/Word)Jesus body as a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
History shows that Greek thinking has had a strong influence on Christianity. Greek thinking demanded that all things fit into 2 categories, i.e., created or uncreated. So according to this type of thinking, Christ was either created or uncreated. This helped immensely in shaping the Trinity Doctrine.But scripture teaches that between the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Cult B gives the same scriptures over and over again.He also completely ignores these 100 scriptures:https://www.heavennet.net/writings/trinity-11.htmSo he is selective. He selects that which he wants to hear and ignores the rest. I think most who come here know of his tactics. We can only sit and watch what pride can do to a man. Let him be an…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
CultB has about 15 scriptures in his bible.That is a small bible. But we know there are hundreds of scriptures that contradict his teaching. Here is the first hundred for starters:https://www.heavennet.net/writings/trinity-11.htmHe always gives the same scriptures because they are the only ones that look like they could agree with his theology when…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
It is sad that you are that brainwashed CultB.It is up to you to come out of the Trinity Cult. No one else can make that decision. Only you can.The Bible is a book that contains books that teach about God and how he is one and how he sent his son for our sakes. You have turned it into a document to support your Babylonian Trinity and to turn the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Ezra 5:12But because our fathers angered the God of heaven, he handed them over to Nebuchadnezzar the Chaldean, king of Babylon, who destroyed this temple and deported the people to Babylon.Jeremiah 51:6“Flee from Babylon! Run for your lives! Do not be destroyed because of her sins. It is time for the LORD's vengeance; he will pay her what she…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are links allowed in signatures and/or posts? in the forum Rules, Help Desk & Notices 19 years, 1 month ago
If it is relevant to the topic and forum you post in, then go ahead.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ Aug. 23 2007,00:27)I have read your post and you are still putting the twist on scripture. Putting your own interpretation and spin rather than accepting the plain truth.If you stopped doing this yourself, then you would see clearer and have some authority to point this out to others.But as it stands now, you do this very…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ Aug. 23 2007,00:37)There you go misrepresenting me again just as you misrepresent scripture. I never said to you or anyone that I am against worshipping Christ.Stick to facts instead of making up fables.The truth is that Jesus was worshipped/honoured as the son of God and as the Lamb of God. But not as the Most High God. The…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Unfortunately for you CultB, you are in the mother cult.First come out of the Babylonian cult and then you might see clearly to point out related things to others.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
God is the Father of all spirits.He sends spirits forth.Angels are spirits too.But there is only one Spirit which is God.There are not 2 Spirits which are God.There are not 3 Spirits which are God.The Father is the only true God, the true God is the Father.It is antichrist to deny that he has a son. If you say the son is also God, then you deny…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
CultB.You should only teach when you have understanding. You are responsible for that which you teach and teachers will be judged more severely.You always quote “My Lord and my God”, but never “You are theos”. It's deceptive to only speak that which could support your view. It is more honest to quote all so that people can see the contexts it can…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ Aug. 23 2007,00:51)You've still got a problem t8.Stephen was kneeling and worshipping Jesus.No amount of your “twisting” can change the Bible truth.Stephen was kneeling and praying directly to Jesus. There is no evidence that he was praying to Jesus in the Fathers name, or that he was praying to the Father in Jesus'…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Allah in Farsi. in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 19 years, 1 month ago
I would like to read it.I had a friend in New Zealand who was originally from Iran and he said to me that the first day he came here, he could see that God had blessed us more than his own country. He became a Christian and he introduced me to many other Iranians too.He has since left my city, but I hope he is good.Will read your writing later.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Do you believe the theory of Evolution to be true? in the forum Creation & Science 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Stu @ Aug. 21 2007,18:17)++”If you saw 20 apples in a circle you could ask WHO put them there? But if I told you that WHO was irrelevant and unscientific, and that the apples fell out of a bag that way due to air currents and the angle by which they fell out of the bag, you would have the right to call me crazy. Well for that reason I c…[Read more]
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