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Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 22 2007,11:32)Yes, but you also argue that men will one day be divine and I'm pretty sure you have used this verse in John to support that.I say that we can partake in divine nature.Whether that actually makes us divine is not is open to discussion.I wouldn't be surprised however. After all eye has not seen and ear has not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
That is not the argument I am making here. It is simply that the word “theos” was ascribed to them and it says “sons of the Most High”. So saying that Jesus is God Almighty because “theos” is ascribed to him doesn't prove that he is God, because “theos” is used in reference to sons and angels too.I have said all along that the words “theos” and…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
But he is not worshipped as God.As the son of God and the Lamb of God. But not God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's Proof Text #3 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Jesus said “You are theos”.He said it.In Psalms it says, you are theos, you are sons…It's kind of silly to pretend that Jesus never said it and that it doesn't say “sons of the Most High” in the verse he quoted. And we will be like Jesus. He will call us brethren/brothers. So if Jesus were the Almighty and then he calls us brothers, then that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Laurel @ Sep. 21 2007,18:36)Do you believe His Word? or like many do you believe the Friday to Sunday twist?I don't have an opinion on this.

Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 19 years, 1 month ago
WJ.No one can see God and no one has seen God at any time.That alone rules Jesus out. He is visible. Scripture says so.To say otherwise is to again twist that which is written to suit a certain belief.whom no one has seen or can see,no man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Thanks in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 19 years, 1 month ago
Hi seekingtruth.I hope to see you back here too.Thanks for all the encouragement and your thoughts over years.God bless.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Thanks in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 19 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mandy.See you back in a couple of months. Enjoy life and come back refreshed.Take care and thanks.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
CultB in his own mind places himself in the truth category and then places most everyone else into these other (wrong) categories. He appears to think in carnal ways and even in this carnal logic he gets it wrong. There is in actual fact 1 regular JW member here.The poor man cannot let scripture sway his mind and he holds on to these traditions…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (IM4Truth @ Sep. 21 2007,05:28)Does anybody ever consider that God was a title. God has been used for other Kings and Emperors before. Jesus did exist before the world began. Will give scriptures, but I want to say this first. Before He became Man there is no other name given to Him except that He was the Word in John 1. But that does not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bananas in the forum Creation & Science 19 years, 1 month ago
OK, so you admit that it doesn't matter how long you wait, the 1973 Oxford dictionary will never appear and same with the million dollars. OK that is good.Now you essentially believe that there was nothing and then a singularity exploded and the expansion of this explosion caused all that we see today including the existence of a banana.So say 14…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bananas in the forum Creation & Science 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Stu @ Sep. 15 2007,06:39)the incomprehensibly long time that undirected natural selection has had to work on a self-replicating and slowly changing plant produce a native banana, has done a job I personally could not possibly do.OK, so you admit to being not as able as nothing with a lot of time on it's hands. You shouldn't put yourself…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 20 2007,20:11)T8,Where in scripture are we explicitly warned about worshipping Yeshua “as God”? Which biblical writer cautions us against extolling Him too highly?There is also no caution as to worshipping Michael the Angel as God either or extolling him to highly. Where is it written that a woman shouldn't extol a man too…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Jesus is God in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 1 month ago
Good one kejonn.I meet regularly with believers here in NZ and we are looking at the elementary teachings about Christ and then onto the foundational doctrines after that.I have brought some teachings on these subjects already and all who attend are welcoming of what I have to say, because they seem to of the same mind regarding the experience and…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Jesus is God in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 20 2007,14:22)Quote (Kolumbo @ Sep. 19 2007,20:50)Peace and love to all my brothers in Christ.I was raised under trinity based religions and have only recently begun to question itsauthenticity, since I started reading these boards.This can be viewed in two different ways: (1) God led you here so you read more on the Trinity…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ Aug. 28 2007,22:45)SO TELL US T8. Is it ok to worship a created being? What you are advocating is idolatry!Jesus was worshipped because He is God. TITUS 2:13 awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ
2Pe 3:16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things; in…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – Is 1:18's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
As Christians we should understand the elementary teachings of Christ. The most basic of truths regarding Jesus is that he is the son of God and the messiah.Yes there are cleverly devised doctrines that lead men away from this elementary truth and they should be exposed for what they are.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #2 in the forum Debates 19 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Cult Buster @ Aug. 26 2007,22:07)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 23 2007,15:24)Unfortunately for you CultB, you are in the mother cult.First come out of the Babylonian cult and then you might see clearly to point out related things to others.t8. Is that the best that you can do? I hoped that you would provide an intelligent response from scripture. Seeing…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Bananas in the forum Creation & Science 19 years, 1 month ago
You don't believe in miracles? Are you sure?You cannot make a banana and if you did, it would be a miracle according to you, yet non-intelligence made many varieties of bananas, according to you.So you do believe in miracles, the miracle that non-intelligence formed the banana.Of course not all miracles are genuine. Some are simple deception, like…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Sabbath in the forum Scriptural Teachings 19 years, 1 month ago
Colossians 2:16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
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