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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    Berean. I am sorry to say this but it is true and has to be said. Your above post is full of mistruths about what I believe.

    There is not one fact or truth about my belief in your post.

    For me there is one God the Father, and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the Son of God, the messiah, and the Word of God. He existed in the form of God…[Read more]

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    Here is a point of view regarding Covid

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    Oh, don’t play dumb!
    You are always saying that Jesus is not God, he is the Son of God.
    But Trinitarians do believe that Jesus Christ is the only-begotten Son of God.
    You can read it again.

    Not playing dumb. Now that you have spelled it out, I can reply. Simple.

    If Jesus is God, then he has a Son. Because God has a Son.

    There you go. Yes, they c…[Read more]

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    It appears for now that the Western World, not just Australia is sliding toward a scary future. We will see if this is just temporary though, when the virus is no longer a threat. It could turn out that the virus sped up the process toward Totalitarianism. If so, then in order for more progress on this front, the powers in high places have…[Read more]

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    We have had just over 4100 cases of covid-19 in NZ. Despite that small number, we know a family that did get it earlier on and they are still suffering from long-term effects. Some had no symptoms or long term problems. Their ages ranged from 30s to 80s. But some did, including a young person still suffering from fatigue who needs to sleep up to…[Read more]

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    Yes. But more deaths and longterm symptoms. Other pandemics went that way and because they didnt have vaccines and strict lockdowns, the suffering was horrendous.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    It’s time to stop the false accusations against Trinitarians.

    Please give me one quote so I know what you are talking about exactly. If not, then I’ll ignore your post and carry on. Thanks.

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    The Roman Catholic faith is adherence to the Trinity Doctrine.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “’Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    IT IS THE SAME WITH THE SINGLE SON OF GOD GENERATED BY THE FATHER
    HE IS THE EXACT REFLECTION OF WHAT THE FATHER IS
    ON THE SPIRITUAL AND PHYSICAL PLAN BEFORE ITS INCARNATION.

    AFTER GIFT INCARNATION, WE CAN SAY WITH PAUL THAT IN CHRIST THE WHOLE FULLNESS OF THE DIVINITY LIVES BODILY.

    And once again we see the Trinity Doctrine confusing people. You…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone who has seen Me… Has seen the Father.

    Yes a perfect description for the image of God.

    And an image is not the source.

    Simple.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    Proclaimer, if you play your game of replacing the words in the scriptures I just posted with your beliefs, they won’t fit.

    Wrong. Replace God with the Father and it not only makes sense. It is actually what the verses are saying.

    For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but h…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son  who is in the bosom of the Father , He hath revealed Him.

    Proof that Jesus is not God right there. God is invisible.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    So if the God in the Bible is not a Trinity because you cannot swap these words without breaking scripture, then the Trinity God is some other God. It is not the God in the Bible.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    In order to believe in the One true God, you must believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are a package deal, a divine interdependency.

    My scriptures trump your creed. Do you want to play again.

    Jesus said, Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them,
    `I am returning…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    Yes, that makes him the image of God.

    Think about the Word ‘image’ and ‘of’ for a minute.

    If you had a son, then you could day the son of Miia. But nobody would say he was Miia.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    To be the most like God and to have his nature and character doesn’t make you God. It makes you his Son.

    When you are like something and even if you are equal to something, to any clear thinking person, you are not that actual thing that you are like.

    What it makes you is an image.

    God is the source of all, even the Son. The Son is the image of…[Read more]

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    Miia, I get it that these vaccines were rushed out the door. But look at the situation. Regardless, I am not forcing you to be vaccinated. I respect that you have your own free will, that your will is sovereign. I am merely arguing about the issue itself. As I said before. Whether we are vaccinated or not, we will all likely get Covid-19 just like…[Read more]

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    And this is how you pray. It is to the Father because the Father is above all.

    Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name;
    thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against
    us; and lead us not into temptation, but…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 4 years, 7 months ago

    Hi Proclaimer.

    I do not wish to get into a debate over this topic.

    God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. These three are one!

    Someone here once described a coin as having two different images on either side, but it’s still the one coin. I get that!

    And this is exactly why people believe in the Trinity Doctrine.

    1. They turn God i…

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