Quote (Stu @ Oct. 26 2007,05:53)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2007,21:10)Quote (Stu @ Oct. 25 2007,19:43)These forums are a safe place for people to express their extrordinary claims without too much question, so you will see it expressed here but not in public as much.Yeah like that guy who claims to be a descendant of a monkey who keeps raving about the…[Read more]

I started reading this discussion but like many here it is quite long. I then looked up Wikipedia and I thought this was interesting:Most Christians believe that Sunday is a special day of worship and rest, every week commemorating the Resurrection of Jesus on the first day of the week on the Jewish calendar. Most Christian traditions teach that…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 21 2007,16:10)If these four tenets are scriptural then the trinity doctrine is likewise:1. There is only One true God.2. The Father is true God.3. The Son is true God.4. The Holy Spirit is true God.You neglected one important tenant that you also need to factor in to this man-made doctrine.Can you guess what it is. I will…[Read more]

Hey WJ, I am not saying I am right.I am saying scripture is and that if you claim to have truth, then it should be scriptural.That is why I teach that there is one God the Father and that he made Jesus Lord.I repeat scripture. That is all.Sure if I go beyond that, then it is an opinion. But so long as I stick to scripture, you cannot fault me,…[Read more]

Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 29 2007,15:36)I just have to ask this: if the gospels were eyewitness accounts why were they written so many years after Jesus supposed death? Why not immediately while the events were fresh?Let me ask you, would you wait 30-40 years to try to recount something in your life? How old are you? How much detail would you remember…[Read more]

Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 29 2007,15:36)Then you do not believe that the Christian bible is inerrent and inspired? What part is to be trusted then if there are that many discrepancies?Towshab it is self explanatory.Many books give the method that the books came about. You don't need to ask me, just go to each book and read for yourself as I said.You…[Read more]

Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 29 2007,15:08)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2007,21:25)Towshab, my reply is getting off the discussions subject to some degree, so I will reply to your post in a more appropriate discussion.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….ry80843Hi T8,Your link is broken.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….5;st=20

But even then, the negative ones could also apply in many cases. Jesus died along with criminals. He became a curse on our behalf so we could escape the curse of the law. He became something he was not, so that we could become something we were not.BTW, there are Morning Stars (plural).He is THE Morning Star.Likewise there are many lords, but he…[Read more]

Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 29 2007,12:34)Since others want me to continue, I saw yet another contradiction in the resurrection accounts. This one is powerful because the contradiction takes place in the same book and chapter!——————–Luk 24:12 Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid…[Read more]

Quote Since others want me to continue, I saw yet another contradiction in the resurrection accounts. This one is powerful because the contradiction takes place in the same book and chapter!——————–Luk 24:12 Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed,…[Read more]

Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 29 2007,00:50)Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 28 2007,01:35)Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 28 2007,11:22)If the moderators can make private forums that people can access by invitation only I would be willing to continue. But I'd like for the threads to be private. Can ikonboard do that?John 3:20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will…[Read more]

No these giants were begotten from apes.How tall are you Stu?, ( standing upright of course).

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 25 2007,19:43)These forums are a safe place for people to express their extrordinary claims without too much question, so you will see it expressed here but not in public as much.Yeah like that guy who claims to be a descendant of a monkey who keeps raving about the Cosmos coming from nothing.

Looks like a 2 pronged attack. The Trinitarians are back and the Unitarians are going hard over on the preexistence discussion.OK, we need some reinforcements.Or maybe the Trinitarians and the Unitarians could battle it out for a while, so as to tire each other out. And those who trust in God, not man, who are not swayed by man's doctrines could…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 21 2007,16:10)If these four tenets are scriptural then the trinity doctrine is likewise:1. There is only One true God.2. The Father is true God.3. The Son is true God.4. The Holy Spirit is true God.John 17:3 (English-NIV)Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have…[Read more]

Thanks for your post What Counts.The first thing that should stick out to any questioning person is why this so-called foundational doctrine is never taught in scripture. Jesus, Paul, Peter, or John, never mentioned it. The Old Testament never mentions it either and hence why the Jews will never embrace it.If the Bereans heard this doctrine, they…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 19 2007,18:41)Quote (Samuel @ Oct. 19 2007,17:14)I didn't know that you did not believe in GOD, I'd seen you on here a time or two I guess that I just haven't read to much of any of your posts up until now that you addressed me directly.T8 made a good point one time in a post. That people really can't prove GOD don't exist so…[Read more]

Thanks for all your help kejonn over the past few months,Mucho appreciated.Hope to hear from you again.Take care and pray always.

Hi Isaiah.Yes half way.Will do it.

I am glad you posted this.I was going to do a study on the scriptures that mention Morning Star because I thought it might be relevant to the Preexistence discussion.But you did the work for me.