Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 22 2008,23:55)Like this thread — I've seen you t8, and perhaps Nick, call WJ a false teacher just because he believes in the trinity. To WJ, that is the what he believes. What right do you have to say he is false? In his heart and mind, you are false. Who truly is false, the one who does not believe as you do?If WJ says that…[Read more]

Quote (chipwhite @ Feb. 21 2008,08:01)Hello all been along time (but I have been quietly reading along for about 40 or so pages and finally have some time to wade in.) Like martian mentioned earlier this is just a board of opinions and like others I enjoy testing my opinions just like everyone else. With that out of the way here we go again.The…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 22 2008,13:45)Maybe if Christians stop all of the “infighting”, non-Christians will take the bible AND you more seriously.Says a fighting KJ.

Quote (discipleelohim @ Feb. 21 2008,02:41)and in APRIL 2008 sees the opening of the Seventh Seal of Revelation as stated in the Bible (The Great Tribulation) where it starts with a massive attack on the US and Other Countrys which will lead too WW3.This then leads too the last three and half years of the great tribulation period and Christ return…[Read more]

That is true in most cases.But you will get a type of person that brings some baggage with him and into all discussions and they never seem to leave. They spam their ideas all over the place and a lot of work is required when dealing with them. You can end up defending yourself against them all the time as they require or you can ignore them. But…[Read more]

And some of the Pharisees had the right to disagree that Jesus was the messiah and the son of God. But the right to do something doesn't equate to being right.Humans have the right to be wrong, that I agree with.

Stu seems to admit that it requires a measure of a type of faith to believe that there is no God.

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2008,21:52)Your analogy is not a theory. There is an important difference between HTML and DNA. HTML is only a set of instructions to tell the system what to display or point to. DNA contains all the information for making an entirely new system. That is why natural selection can cause radical changes in the frequency of…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2008,21:11)You cannot know that in your mythology, your god has not copied the code from someone else. It could well be true that life as we know it is the only system that is chemically possible. There are some good chemical reasons to believe this. You therefore cannot honestly claim copyright on behalf of your…[Read more]

Yeah Stu must be right. He possesses less than 000000000.3% of all knowledge in creation and he just knows that God doesn't exist.Seems compelling doesn't it?

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2008,05:20)But you are incapable of describing to me what it is that I cannot see.I could you know, but I choose not to because I do not think you would listen.There is wisdom in not casting pearls before the swine.If you were genuinely interested then I could explain my experience with God. I have in the past told some about…[Read more]

Hey Stu are all non-believers peace loving people? And without those who believe in God, would the world would be a paradise of love and understanding? In that scenario and if they all believed in Evolution, would survival of the fittest not be engaged in because of tolerance for the weak?I think that a planet of atheists would be a planet of…[Read more]

Quote (CPe @ Feb. 16 2008,10:30)Now that I am convinced that the bible do not teach the concept of the trinity, where do I go from here? Which church should I attend?Orthodox Protestant churches have the trinity as a basic tenet of faith. So obviously no.Those holding a different view are branded as cults. Now among churches branded as cults,…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,15:49)Here's the scenario: God made the animals, God made Adam and Eve. One of God's animals (as far as Eve knew) said the fruit was fine. Eve did not know evil, so it was easy for her to believe in the words spoken by a creature that God created. Then, Adam shares and God punishes them for believing one of God's…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,15:46)Ah, so you are saying God made a no-win situation for Adam? Sounds kinda cruel of God, dontcha think?Where was Adam going to go, to another woman?!?A no win situation or a situation where he could have chosen to abstain from the temptation and saved his life and all who were to come after him?If you were/are…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,15:59)Here's the setup:(1) God created all and said it was goodGen 1:31 God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day. (2) Adam and Eve did not know what evil was until they ate of the fruitGen 3:5 “For God knows that in the day you eat from it…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,12:12)Why would she have cause to disbelieve the serpent?Because at that point she had 2 conflicting pieces of information.One from Yahweh and the other from the serpent.Using her free will she chose the serpent.

Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,11:09)How would they know rebellion if they had never experienced it?How do we know about repentance if we don't know what righteousness is?

Don't answer that question of you live in New Zealand.

Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,09:16)Here's one to ponder: since Adam and Eve did not know good and evil until they ate of the fruit, how would it be a sin to eat of the fruit since they did not know the difference? All they knew was that God told them not too. Had they seen death before that? How did they even know what is was to die if that had…[Read more]