Hi david.This is taken from Wikipedia about the HoY.When you read it it appears to have a lot in common with the JWs history as they prophesied the coming of Christ in 1914 I think it was and then said that he is here, but invisible. I also think that 1874/75 or something like that was also important. Perhaps you can elaborate. It seems to me that…[Read more]

Taken from Wikipedia.Nuclear war starting September 12, 2006Hawkins announced in the House of Yahweh's February 2006 newsletter that nuclear war would start September 12, 2006. He claimed it is a part of the HoY's commission to warn the nations and the people of the world. He was interviewed on the Channel 4 web show thisisaknife about his…[Read more]

Would you guys be happy to start a Wikipedia article on Ronald Weinland when his prophecies about USA, AUS, UK, & NZ being nuked in April do not come to pass? The article would of course have to explain that his prophecies didn't come to pass.If so, you could use the article on Yisrayl Hawkins as a…[Read more]

Quote (Broncs453 @ Feb. 27 2008,08:06)If things start to come to pass as outlined by Ron, how about you apologize and repent here, for hanging on to beliefs that will then appear to be false?? Will you do that? If you feel that you are being “led astray” by any of this discussion, then your current beliefs must not be that strong to begin…[Read more]

Quote (Broncs453 @ Feb. 27 2008,03:32)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 26 2008,21:56)Here are some interesting facts you may want to consider:Mr Weinland is not one of the 2 witnesses spoken of in Revelation.The Church of God (PKG) or not is not the body of Christ or the Church. There may be members who are involved in this that belong to the true Body of…[Read more]

Quote (doctorex @ Feb. 26 2008,23:11)When did I promote anything. By saying what I believe I am not promoting anything anymore than you are.When you speak of someones teachings or prophecies you are either critiquing or promoting. It seems that many in htis thread are promoting.Hence, if someone promotes a false prophet then they need to repent…[Read more]

Here is a newsletter Yahweh.com writings about Yisrayl Hawkins book called the “The End”.NOTE: All purple text is quoted from Yahweh.com not for teaching, but to serve as a lesson for those who listen to false prophecies.Prophecy— Nuclear War Will Start September 12, 2006Why aren't the religions warning the world about this horrible great t…[Read more]

Here is a newsletter Yahweh.com writings about Yisrayl Hawkins book called the The End, (sounds similar to “the-end.com” don't you think?)It also has a similar message to Mr Weinland.NOTE: All purple text is quoted from Yahweh.com not for teaching, but to serve as a lesson for those who listen to false prophecies.Prophecy— Nuclear War Will Start S…[Read more]

Here are some interesting facts you may want to consider:Mr Weinland is not one of the 2 witnesses spoken of in Revelation.The Church of God (PKG) or not is not the body of Christ or the Church. There may be members who are involved in this that belong to the true Body of Christ/Church, but the Church is not a denomination. The Church is Christ's…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ Feb. 25 2008,22:40)You guys can mock us all you want, but has it occured to you that maybe, just maybe, it is God you are mocking? Do you really think that the whole world is going to recognise the two witnesses for who they are? Obviously not considering what the Bible says happens to them. Remember the majority of the of Jews of…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 26 2008,13:35)So T8, you have the truth. Tell us, who other than you have the truth? Could I have a list? Or is it just you? The fact that your other moderator doesn't agree with you on whether God is a torturer of people in fire for all eternity makes me think that either it was hard to find someone for this job, or there…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,13:50)Human religious institutions, such as the Watchtower, do not fulfill this requirement.How ironic that Babelites engaged in a tower and we have an organisation called the Watchtower and they have built an organisation in the name of Jehovah Witnesses.It's just another division like Armstrongism, and every…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 26 2008,13:40)Didn't babylon teach the eternal torrment of the wicked T8?Yes from what I have read about Babylon that appears correct.I guess we all have been influenced to some degree by the wine of Babylon.But it does say “Come out of her my people”.So at least some that belong to Christ are under her influence to some degree.

The Church is the Body of Christ.The body is that which is connected to Christ the head.The Church is made up of living stones filled with God's Spirit. We are the stones that have being fitted together.No denomination is the whole Body of Christ.Some in the Church also belong to a denomination and some do not. But whatever option, we need to see…[Read more]

So the question is, was the messenger a pre-existent Yeshua?I can see for and against on this one.Revelation 1: 1 shows us divine order of authority that goes like this:God > Jesus > Angel > John > 7 ChurchesClearly Jesus is not the angel here. But then again it doesn't say Angel of the Lord. And it appears that it was Jesus angel, although that…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 24 2008,18:51)I notice Zeus has disappeared from your discussion. No-one describes leprachauns as gods, but Zeus was considered to be one. You have really tried to avoid a valid point, and you do demonstrate that what I wrote above holds true: you have no honest basis to argue that Zeus was not king of the gods.Actually…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 24 2008,18:51)Are you trying to impress people with rudeness now?No. I was asking if you comprehended what I said, because you do not seem to have a great track record of understanding what people are actually saying. Just a reality statement.

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 24 2008,18:51)If there was a theory of divine creation, would it not be critically important to consider the role of the creator in that?You missed the point entirely.Either there is a God or there isn't.If there isn't, then Evolution is one of the names of this cause/nothing/nobody/unGod/eternal-inimate-something, and there…[Read more]

Hey if you guys truly believe it is the end of the world, then your money is worthless and so may I suggest that you donate it to me.I can provide a bank account number.Let me know when you are ready to make the deposits.

Quote (Mandy @ Feb. 25 2008,14:48)Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 25 2008,11:08)Quote (Mandy @ Feb. 25 2008,09:04)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 25 2008,00:16)It seems non-believers aren't allowed to edit (we must not be trusted it seems) so you can find more about the “Serenity Prayer” here.I've asked t8 for my editing rights to be restored and he is thinking…[Read more]