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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 18 years, 4 months ago

    It could be. Heaven is not just a place but a Kingdom.I believe my vision was what John saw in Revelation 22:1Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the LambExcept I didn't see a city, but a paradise. That said, it could have been a part of the city as cities have parks.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Shania @ May 19 2008,15:41)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 18 2008,07:16)We will never (legitimately) be called “YHWH” (Zech 14:4)Zech 14:3-53 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle. 4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split…[Read more]

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    Jesus is not God because scripture tells us that Jesus is the son of God. This is not a passing comment in scripture but a foundational truth of the Church that needs to be brought out into the light in these days.Scripture says that God is invisible and Jesus is the image of this invisible God.Scripture says that there is one God, the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic art of tattoos in the forum Faith 18 years, 4 months ago

    In New Zealand, the native people (Maori) are famous for their tattoos. The men received a Moko which was a full face tattoo. Some have opted to have it even these days.

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    There are at least 2 different ways of translating bibles. One is to translate each word for word when possible and then connect the words in a way that the new language can understand which ultimately means some words need to be added. The other is to take a whole idea and translate it so that the new language expresses the point as clear as…[Read more]

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    Jesus is more than an afterthought due to Adam's rebellion. God made all things for him and through him.Jesus is the reason that there is a creation and the reason that we exist.If Jesus didn't exist, then neither would we.He is the life, and he is the only mediator between God and man.He is also the image of the invisible God, so to say that he…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 18 2008,07:24)T8……I believe you hurt Mandy's feelings and that was wrong of you, “why behold the mote in they brothers eye and see not the beam in thy own eye”, Mandy has added many good insights into things here, and none of us have (ALL) the truth do we, doesn't it say we are to grow in grace and Knowledge. Kejonn,…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Not3in1 @ May 18 2008,03:50)I suppose it is time for me to go. After all, you are right t8, I have lost faith in the scriptures…..so many of them. Listening to the long, never-ending debates only makes me doubt further. I have felt for some time that I am not helping myself by being here. But I have grown to love the people and I've…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (TimothyVI @ May 17 2008,22:07)This is the morning after that exchange so you probably feel a little better now any way. I want to say that I did not necessarily see contempt in T8s question.It is really difficult in these kinds of forums to disagree without sometimes seeming unkind. We can not hear the tone of voice, or see body…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Not3in1 @ May 17 2008,18:54)I was heading for bed and then decided to comment on what you have said here.It's obvious you are irritated with me and probably have been for quite some time. However that is no reason to make me feel bad. I enjoy contributing to this site, while it is not always scripturally based arguments I do try to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,18:24)t8And your observation that there is more than “ONE GOD” is unscriptural!Actually that is your observation about what I say.Scripture says that there is one THEOS and that men, angels, etc are theos. I have never taught that anyone else but the Father is THEOS and that others are theos according to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,18:05)And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us insight to know him who is true, and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. This one is the true God and eternal life. (1 John 5:20)Again, if you are implying that Jesus is the true God as in the one true God, then you say that to the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,18:05)Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; (Titus 2:13)WJ, if you are implying that this scripture is saying that Jesus is YHWH, then you have to exclude the Father from being YHWH.If you identify a person as being someone, then you exclude…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,18:05)I agree, so then what is the problem?You see the Trinity and it is not taught. That in itself is your problem, but you will be responsible for all who are lead astray by your teaching.Teachers incur a greater judgment. Therefore we should not teach outside of the truth that is revealed by God.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Not3in1 @ May 17 2008,17:52)Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,17:51)Quote (Not3in1 @ May 17 2008,17:49)Why does Paul pray that we will gain greater insight and wisdom then?It is because wisdom comes from God.I guess I'll just keep praying for more…..Great. If you are interested in wisdom, then God gives it if you ask.You have to really want it and…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Not3in1 @ May 17 2008,17:49)T8, I'll be honest here, I'm ready to chuck my bible altogether. I believe in God, don't get me wrong. I just cannot go as far as Stu and other's into the humanistic explainations……..I know God…..I feel God……I am only alive because of God. But all the other stuff seems up for grabs. Nothing can be…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Not3in1 @ May 17 2008,17:49)Why does Paul pray that we will gain greater insight and wisdom then?It is because wisdom comes from God.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,17:28)Quote (t8 @ May 17 2008,17:22)We now await the response designed to hide this and confuse the readers.:blues:t8Seems that you confuse the readers by all the gods you talk about! :pYou will never be able to deny that theos is also used for some men, angels, idols, Satan, etc.It is nothing more than an observable…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 17 2008,16:27)There is no example in the NT scriptures where any of the Apostles or followers of Christ used the term theos in a divine way for any other being other than Jesus.The claim that “Theos” is used for angels and men in a divine sense is not supported by NT scriptures.I never said that all theos/gods is a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 18 years, 4 months ago

    We now await the response designed to hide this and confuse the readers.:blues:

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