“The Trinity is a false doctrine that has deceived many.”Just needed to get that off my chest. Thanks.

Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 02 2008,13:26)Ah, but you will never be able to see things from Stu's perspective unless you stop believing in God. So it is not different for him as he must start believing in God to see things from your perspective.Hmm I think I actually agree with you.

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 29 2008,20:52)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 28 2008,22:45)Quote (Stu @ Aug. 26 2008,22:11)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2008,21:31)Hey Stu.Have you evolved into a Christian yet?Third off-topic post in two days.  Your hypocrisy is becoming a sick joke.StuartThis thread is about Evolution and the theory suggests that living organisms adapt to their…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 02 2008,13:20)So, if a Muslim kills you and your family for being infidels, is that any different? What makes you think Allah is not Yahweh? Perhaps the last prophet was Mohammed and you should join Islam.Maybe you are the prophet, for surely you are preaching as if you have the truth. Are you any different to a false prophet…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 04 2008,20:47)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 04 2008,05:34)Quote (Oxy @ Sep. 03 2008,09:52)I am not a trinitarian as described by some in this forum in that I do not see God as being made up of 3 equal “beings”.Keith,Am I to assume you agree with Oxy here?  Sounds like another brand of Trinitarianism to…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 28 2008,22:56)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 27 2008,10:35)Hi WJ, What is divine nature? Please detail what you know of itNHThere is only “One” divine being.Yeshua is not a partaker of the divine nature of God.He is in nature all that God is. Heb 1:3Now a question for you.Tell me in what sense is Yeshua's nature less than…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 02 2008,13:41)Quote (Tiffany @ Aug. 31 2008,12:15)kejonn How would you even know that. Are you forgetting that He was taught by our Heavenly Father long before any Human ever existed, at least I believe so. Knowing what was at stake here, Jesus did not sin.Is lying a sin?Joh 7:8  You go up to the feast. I am not going up to…[Read more]

So you persecute the messiah.You are no different to lots of people. If you are there for him he will be for you. If not, then he will not be there for you.He is the saviour of mankind and it is up to you whether you persecute him, ignore him, or accept his ministry.But can you crucify the son of God twice, or would you want to?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 03 2008,13:31)I was appointed from eternity,from the beginning, before the world began. Proverbs 8:23Clearly before wisdom was brought forth he was from eternity.So one should ask, “was there ever a time God had no wisdom”? Wisdom is only born when it is revealed to angels or men.Wisdom always existed. Yeshua is made…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 03 2008,13:31)Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Sep. 03 2008,11:16)There is no scripture to support that Gabriel had a beginning either.All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3I agree that this scripture answers that question, even though there is no specific mention of Gabriel being created.

Sounds like Lord of the Rings. Wait that was Mordor.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 03 2008,08:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2008,07:43)Hi WJ, Fine words but not of faith. Jesus has proceeded and come from God.NHGood choice of words.Notice, no use of born or created.Big difference. There is no unambiguous scripture to support the preincarnate Yeshua had a begining.WJThere is no scripture to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 02 2008,07:17)Hi all,Regarding whether or not Jesus existed while Abraham was alive, this passage seems pretty clear to me.  In this passage in John 8, Jesus is talking to the Jews.  These Jews declared themselves to be sons of Abraham, and even sons of God.  They seem to be devout in their religion.  Jesus dares to tel…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 02 2008,03:16)T8…..Jesus did not say i (EXISTED BEFORE ABRAHAM) you are forcing the text to say that, and even if you use EXISTED as what you think it means, it does not say in what way he existed does it, was  it in the plan and will of God, that took place before the foundations of the world or does the text just…[Read more]

To Not3in1.Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 01 2008,15:31)Thanks, t8.But Jesus didn't say he was older than Abraham.  He said that before Abraham was I am.  Am what?MandyHe said, “before Abraham, ego eimi”.Before = BeforeAbraham = Abrahamwas = come to pass, be made, becomeI = ego, a primary pronoun of the first person I am = to be, to exist, to happen, to b…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 29 2008,00:26)The use of “I am” in the “…before Abraham I am….” context appears to be a special construction of words. It is unlikely that Jesus would be claiming to be God or even a preexistent thing at this time in the NT story. It doesn't ring true with the tenor of the NT, imo. It certainly does not ring true with…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 29 2008,00:26)If Jesus was saying that he preexisted in the “I am” statement, he sure chose a strange time to introduce that concept. There was no explaination given after that statement either. All is pretty vague, if you ask me.What is strange about the timing and the place?The question he was asked was, “Are you older…[Read more]

Quote We know that subatomic particles formed as a result of a separation of baryons and anti-baryons.  Hydrogen is the result of subatomic particles forming atoms a short time after the big bang.  We know that stars of the size of our sun can fuse hydogen to make elements as heavy as iron.  We know that the atoms that make up our planets, and in…[Read more]

With regards to slavery the scriptures talk of conduct of slaves and masters.Has anyone who condemns the bible because they think it is promoting slavery actually thought for one minute that the God is realistic as to what is happening on earth and offers advice given the circumstances that are actually mans making.I mean Jesus said of a centurion…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 29 2008,21:19)And many Germans in Germany voted for Hitler. Christians killed Jews because they felt they were evil. People do all sorts of things when they feel their god justifies it.And people speak badly about YHWH obviously due to what they must think is higher reasoning.Are we in the time where deception is so great that…[Read more]