I have a question Stu.What must I believe in order to be converted to atheism. Will believing that something can come from nothing qualify? Or will believing that  an inanimate something has always existed but has been transforming for all eternity with the latest phase becoming the cosmos including galaxies, atoms, and bananas, do it?Just…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 11 2008,22:59)Yeshua taught men to believe in the scriptures and in his words. Men will always reject and criticize the written scriptures. I choose to follow Yeshua and put my trust in him and his words, and the words of Yeshua is to believe in Moses and his writings because if I believe not his writings then how…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 10 2008,02:37)Who cares what you think of me? I don't. You aren't the first Christian who has thought poorly of me for “leaving the faith” nor will you be the last. If I cared about what you thought about me, I'd come back to the fold. Too bad such tactics don't work with people who have been set free from close-minded, blind…[Read more]

Even if Einsteins God didn't roll dice, nor did Newtons. But Newtons God was personal.So if 2 brilliant persons can have differing opinions on God, then what does that prove?It proves that intelligence is not at play here. Rather it is insight.Insight is the ability to see within. Not all have it. Some of the most brilliant minds can also be…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 31 2008,23:19)What will the next one be, t8?  Maybe that it is foolish to think that if you dropped a box of piano parts from 10,000 feet up a piano would assemble and tune itself prior to hitting the ground?Isn't that your argument?I believe the piano was created. I also believe that the cosmos was created. I see the design. It…[Read more]

Heavennet cosmology is a joke? If Heaven cosmology is “God created the Cosmos” then that isn't a joke, rather it is the most likely explanation and couple that with experience with God and you have the truth. I take it that Stuology is that a banana popped out of nothing with a few transitions on the way. And that is not a joke Stu?

Quote (theodorej @ Sep. 10 2008,22:50)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 10 2008,00:55)The point is that you came here giving everyone who believed in God a hard time for that belief. And now you are saying that you are ignorant of the time before the Big Bang. Somethings not right with your logic Stu. It doesn't add up.Greetings t8……..There is no logic with…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 10 2008,19:15)Seek, why would anyone be a part of a religion that they didn't feel was true?Did not the earliest Christians believe they were the only true congregation of God's people?david,I can assure you that many feel that their religion is true and that is why they are involved.But the truth is that no organisation in…[Read more]

Are you guys rebelling again?

Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 09 2008,00:21)This on-going debate boils down to this –t8: “Goddidit”Stu: “Don't know what did it, but pretty sure it wasn't a 'whodidit'”t8, you made a statementQuote So wouldn't you think it would be better to listen rather than ridicule others for their insights and experience?Pulling from a book of mythology does not…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 09 2008,00:21)This on-going debate boils down to this –t8: “Goddidit”Stu: “Don't know what did it, but pretty sure it wasn't a 'whodidit'”t8, you made a statementQuote So wouldn't you think it would be better to listen rather than ridicule others for their insights and experience?Pulling from a book of mythology does not…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 09 2008,00:06)Re Einstein, been there and done that.  If you believe in Einstein's god, or Spinosa's then welcome to atheism.  Einstein rejected the label atheism because people were always trying to label him.  I feel the same about that word.  It is an accurate description but a definition of self in terms of imaginary fri…[Read more]

The problem is that you don't know what my experience is and if you have none to speak of, then that is not my fault.

The point is that you came here giving everyone who believed in God a hard time for that belief. And now you are saying that you are ignorant of the time before the Big Bang. Somethings not right with your logic Stu. It doesn't add up.

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2008,23:36)Are you writing in tongues, t8?StuartNa.

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2008,23:57)I have not made a 'singularity came from nothing' argument.  When this was first mooted I said I didn't know, and I still don't.So then if you are open minded to a cause, (which I thought you denied in recent earlier posts) then you have to be open to the cause to be either inanimate or living.So let's hear the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2008,23:41)Never mind Einstein, Newton, Darwin, Rutherford or even Kant, the argument from silliness is the new science:Never mind Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Gregor Mendel,  Kelvin, Planck, and even perhaps Albert Einstein.Quote Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century,…[Read more]

I take it that you have run out of answers to your singularity came from nothing argument.If you ridicule or even at best test those who believe in God, then it is only fair to look at the options. When the options are shown to you, you try your best to change the subject. Sorry but changing the subject when you get right down to the base of your…[Read more]

Stu is trying to change the subject.Stu is trying to change the subject.Actually another reason for changing it (besides being clearer) was so that you would be less inclined to change the subject. I actually foresaw how you would change the subject if I used those words. And guess what, you did exactly what I thought you would do. Just when we…[Read more]

The same question.