Hi Adam.Because it is not taught that Jesus didn't pre-exist, the onus is on you to prove that these scriptures are not saying or referring to him pre-existing.For those who believe that Jesus pre-existed, they do not have to change any of the below verses, nor do they have to immerse the reader in some philosophy first. We can read them as they…[Read more]

New Zealand is about the same size as California which is actually bigger than Great Britain.But it is certainly small compared to Australia. New Zealand can fit inside Australia something like 30 times.That said, for a small area and population it certainly punches way above its weight. New Zealand competes well against nations that are much…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,11:22)Jesus said those who are not with us are against us. So are yoiu with us?Who is “us” WJ?Paul says that “us” believe the following:1 Corinthians 8:6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.So are…[Read more]

WJ, the point is that they often spend most of their resources on staying afloat.I have a responsibility to my family to keep my family afloat.But the Church's responsibility is to shine the light and to help those in need. It is not about creating organisations that suck up resources and people's time in order to serve the organisation itself.…[Read more]

Stu.One of the following is the answer as they cover all the bases.The cosmos was created by God.The cosmos came from absolutely nothing.The cosmos is made up of something that is eternal, a sort of substance or thing that has been transforming itself from eternity with the latest stage being the cosmos. Feel free to add another option, but your…[Read more]

In other words Stu it boils down to this.Of the 3 options 1) Cosmos was created by God.2) Cosmos came from nothing at some point.3) Cosmos has always existed in some non-living form.You ridicule those who believe the first one and you will not admit to which of the other 2 you hold to because by doing that you open yourself up to ridicule too.So…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2008,04:00)Hi t8 and Tim,I go to a church, a Baptist one, and I disagree that all churches exist to feed itself.  Good grief what a judgement!  The church I go to reaches out to missionaries with financial support and physical support all over the world, lots of them and to each other.  We have survived over two years wi…[Read more]

I agree. It exists to feed itself.

Quote (charity @ Sep. 17 2008,17:20)I bet on Far lap   or if I can grow my hair long enough, I can i be RapunzelI went to a museum here in Wellington and saw Phar Laps skeleton. His heart is also preserved, in a museum in Melbourne. It was sad to hear that he was poisoned with arsenic, just when he was ready to take on the big American horse…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 24 2008,22:04)t8It is the same science on which is based the last antibiotic you took, or the doping of the silicon that leads to the chip that processes your typing here.  If Alexander Fleming and his colleagues had needed such a 'foundation' for their work then we might still have the rates of death from bacterial infection…[Read more]

I know little of American politics, but to say that it would be cool to see an African American as president someday, if only to prove that the USA gives all 'a fair go' (as we say in this part of the world).Of course it should really be that the best man gets the job, and race shouldn't be a factor at all as that is akin to judging by the outward…[Read more]

I know little of American politics, but to say that it would be cool to see an African American as president someday, if only to prove that the USA gives all 'a fair go' (as we say in this part of the world).Of course it should really be that the best man gets the job, and race shouldn't be a factor at all as that is akin to judging by the outward…[Read more]

Yes that is a bit of a worry. Where did the money go and what will happen in the following months?

Yes that is a bit of a worry. Where did the money go and what will happen in the following months?

Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 22 2008,22:10)Nick Interesting thinking, all come on here to debate, but not about Politics of America? How many European are on here? Are not most here Americans? We are aloud to debate about God, but not about Politician?  That just does not make sense to me. And unfair to Samuel, He is being made feel sorry, real…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Sep. 22 2008,22:10)Nick Interesting thinking, all come on here to debate, but not about Politics of America? How many European are on here? Are not most here Americans? We are aloud to debate about God, but not about Politician?  That just does not make sense to me. And unfair to Samuel, He is being made feel sorry, real…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 25 2008,13:13)No, that would be less accurate. Didn't they want to make Jesus king?“They refused to take any active part in the civil administration or the military defence of the empire. . . . It was impossible that the Christians, without renouncing a more sacred duty, could assume the character of soldiers, of m…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 25 2008,13:13)No, that would be less accurate. Didn't they want to make Jesus king?“They refused to take any active part in the civil administration or the military defence of the empire. . . . It was impossible that the Christians, without renouncing a more sacred duty, could assume the character of soldiers, of m…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 23 2008,18:28)Quote Hi Samuel,I do not think that introducing American political choices here is relevant or helpful sorry.The earliest Christians didn't vote or hold political office and were considered “no part of the world,” Satan's world.  They were separate.  They looked to God's kingdom as their hope, not human g…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 23 2008,18:28)Quote Hi Samuel,I do not think that introducing American political choices here is relevant or helpful sorry.The earliest Christians didn't vote or hold political office and were considered “no part of the world,” Satan's world.  They were separate.  They looked to God's kingdom as their hope, not human g…[Read more]