Trinitarians say that Jesus was both divine and human at the same time.Scripture says that Jesus existed in the form of God or with God's nature, emptied himself and existed in the flesh or as a man.It seems to say that Jesus a divine being emptied himself and became a human being and then humbled himself to the point of death.On the other hand if…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 11 2008,06:55)David……you are echoing what (ALL) organized religions say. But they are ALL different in doctrine and beliefs. So whose right then, is it the JW's, the Catholics, the Baptist, the Lutherans, the on and on and on and on, it goes to about a thousand or so. Or could it be NON of them are. I once belonged…[Read more]

Angels are called 'elohim' and 'elohim' is often called “theos” in Greek or the NT.It also appears that the Judges were called 'theos' maybe because their authority was given by God, even if the made a hash of it.But whether Jesus is called 'theos' because he is divine, or because he has been given authority by God, either choice doesn't equate…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 27 2008,11:14)None of the scriptures you mention negates the Deity of Yeshua. The Father also calls Yeshua God.The deity you mention is viewed in this light:Colossians 2:9-109 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10 and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 27 2008,09:23)I am not ashamed or embarrassed to call Yeshua my God.In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. John 1:1 NETNo one has ever seen God. The only one, himself God, who is in closest fellowship with the Father, has made God known. John 1:18 NETWJBut your God has…[Read more]

It wasn't any of these road by any chance?

I have some advice for you WJ.If Jesus is the Most High God and your God, then why not listen to what your God has said:“If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.”.Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,19:39)Yes I can hear the Apostles saying “(in a sense) you are my Lord and my God”.If you cannot hear that, then perhaps you can hear that they are referring to Jesus and his God.But please just don't repeat your teaching that there is one God the Father, Son, Spirit, because for us there is one God the Fat…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,19:39)If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. John 14:7Why would he make such a claim?If Jesus is the image of the invisible God, then it makes perfect sense.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,19:39)No dodging here. It seems you are the one dodging by playing word games with the Greek word “theos”.It's only a game to you WJ. Scripture has a variety of ways of using theos. You should know that by now.

The scripture basically is saying that the fool believes that the cosmos came from nothing and made itself, or that it takes a fool to believe that the cosmos always existed in some form with no creator. Because they are the only 2 views left if you write off the option that God created the cosmos.I think this scripture is really just stating the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2008,22:49)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 25 2008,13:00)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2008,07:14)“God is a reality” is your unsupported assertion.Stu.”God is not a reality” is your unsupported assertion.I have my proof that God exists, but you have no proof for yourself either way.You have never told anyone here your 'proof'.  Of course that is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 26 2008,14:02)Hi WJ,The stars in the heavens will be seen to fall or to be rolled up like a scroll.The earth will be a destroyed by fire.The same fire that destroys the wicked.2 Peter 3:7By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,13:24)True he is not the Father. But you disagree with Greek rules and 100s of scholars.Not so. I disagree with those who have been tainted by the Trinity doctrine. That includes some scholars, the Pope, Catholics, and all kinds of others who profess faith in God.Of course I am not saying that all who believe…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,13:07)t8In other words Yeshua is not your Lord and God?So you are not with us!Ha ha. Nice dodge.He is my lord and my theos. He is not my Most High Theos, that is the Father and I only concur with Jesus himself on that. Jesus is my authority and head, and because he represents God's authority, he can rightly…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,12:36)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 26 2008,11:27)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,11:22)Jesus said those who are not with us are against us. So are yoiu with us?Who is “us” WJ?Paul says that “us” believe the following:1 Corinthians 8:6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in…[Read more]

Hi Adam.Because it is not taught that Jesus didn't pre-exist, the onus is on you to prove that these scriptures are not saying or referring to him pre-existing.For those who believe that Jesus pre-existed, they do not have to change any of the below verses, nor do they have to immerse the reader in some philosophy first. We can read them as they…[Read more]

New Zealand is about the same size as California which is actually bigger than Great Britain.But it is certainly small compared to Australia. New Zealand can fit inside Australia something like 30 times.That said, for a small area and population it certainly punches way above its weight. New Zealand competes well against nations that are much…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 26 2008,11:22)Jesus said those who are not with us are against us. So are yoiu with us?Who is “us” WJ?Paul says that “us” believe the following:1 Corinthians 8:6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.So are…[Read more]

WJ, the point is that they often spend most of their resources on staying afloat.I have a responsibility to my family to keep my family afloat.But the Church's responsibility is to shine the light and to help those in need. It is not about creating organisations that suck up resources and people's time in order to serve the organisation itself.…[Read more]