Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 05 2008,01:58)Hi t8Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2008,13:44)Is the Father the image of the invisible God?Yes, if the Father who is invisible makes himself visible. Would the “image” you see not be God? Again, you reduce Gods image to being less than God therefore creating a false image of God!WJLet's put your words to the…[Read more]

Quote don't arrogantly include me in that.You use the word arrogant. Ha ha. You have no clue about the cause of the universe, but you know with almost certainty that it wasn't God or someone. Of course you are not arrogant, and that is why you pin that to others aye?

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,21:49)I deny god on the very simple premise that no matter how hard we look there is not a single reason to believe in that god over any other one, or to believe in any gods at all.  I don't need an excuse for making that conclusion.StuartOh right. So would you deny that a man built your next door neighbor's house if…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,21:45)Just one fact.  You'd think it would be an easy question if it is all so obviously the act of a deity. StuartStu, just one fact that someone or someones built the house that you live in? If you know who built it, then give me one fact that someone built your neighbor's house. If the house is the act of a person,…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,21:31)Are they particularly convinced by his loving smiting of innocent people?Can a good person prune a tree or a vineyard?Human genealogy is a type of tree that God has pruned from time to time, in order to get rid of the branches that don't produce fruit.A God who didn't love people would just forget about it and let…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,21:31)All men have no excuse for what?No excuse to deny God. The universe declares his glory.You see a house and you know that it has a builder. God is the builder of all.Of course to deny this is folly.

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,21:31)You want it both ways though. In your arguments god is both ubiquitous and inscrutable. If the universe is the work of a god, it is not the god and works described in the Judeo-christian mythology.Not sure what you are getting at, but suffice to say that just because you cannot see something directly doesn't mean…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 04 2008,17:49)Hi LU,So the son of God is not really a son.More of a clone?Nick, I couldn't see in LU's post where that is mentioned. What sentence or text of LU's are you referring to.Thanks.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 04 2008,14:01) Make it 3 and turn it into a trinity.     The tongue trinity.

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 03 2008,22:07)Is the sin of not knowing Jesus as your saviour overlooked if a person has no knowledge of Him?Is ignorance of the law, or ignorance of His existence an excuse?TimTo some degree I think it is a legitimate excuse.But all men have the knowledge of God's law, it is called conscience. So I think that all men can…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2008,13:42)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 04 2008,12:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 03 2008,02:44)Malcolm,Thank you so much for your input so far.  I'm following your reasoning and agree,yeah!  What is your response to the fact that the LORD claims that He alone stretched out the heavens and spread out the earth by H…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2008,13:39)This would be true if the scriptures say Yahshua is “an” image of the invisible God.Still true if he is the image of the invisible God.Is the Father the image of the invisible God?No, Yeshua is.The Father is the one true God and Jesus Christ is who God sent.For 'us', there is one God the Father. For you…[Read more]

Quote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 04 2008,13:20)Quote It's difficult to reconcile this verse with others like John 1:3, Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, Heb 1:3 and Heb 1:10 while still holding that Yeshua….1. Didn't pre-exist His incarnation2. Isn't the Lord God AlmightyThese verses are most assuredly not compatible with unitarianism, or henotheism. On the face…[Read more]

Quote (malcolm ferris @ Oct. 02 2008,08:40)Quote Do you think he was the first work of the Father?as Tiffany said Col 1:15-17 is a good place to start.one thing I don't believe that there are 2 Gods or that a son can be eternal (i.e. in the sense that he has no beginning or end – he can have eternal life in him)I agree.

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,07:36)Single-cell animals have neither eyes nor brains for processing sensory information of any kind. They 'know' of the elephant because it will be keeping them warm, which changes the rate of their biochemical reactions.Exactly the point. Just because they cannot see or comprehend, doesn't mean that what they can't…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,07:36)OK. So there is no piece of evidence that should give me any reason at all to doubt my scientific conclusion that there is no god. I appreciate you acknowledging that. Of course it blows your design argument out of the water but that was dead long ago anyway.Correct. You can't put God under a microscope or see…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 04 2008,07:39)Quote You and I are just as filthy as Lot and anyone else. Speak for yourself t8!StuartGod is holy and we all fall short of his glory. This is what sin is, and we are all in the same boat.But not all take the lifeboat on offer.

He believes more that something can come from nothing than something from someone.His bias prefers nothing to someone as the cause.But he admits that he knows nothing on the subject, even though he proudly proclaims there is no God.

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 30 2008,23:32)Hi theodorejYou might be thinking of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle that basically says you can either know where a particle is or know its speed but the more accurately you know one the less accurately you can know the other.  This inherently arises with very small particles because you will naturally change…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 03 2008,01:00)Sift through all the evidence, all the accumulated knowledge that makes testable predictions, and is there even one single solitary little fact that unquestionably points to the existence of the Judeo-christian god?  A single piece of concrete evidence for Jehovah / Yahweh / Whatever that it would be perverse to…[Read more]